Yes mostly French maize used in Ireland (imported shite ya know) they have forgotten how to grow wheat here to the point its not profitable our flour comes from britian (third country outside the eu) and France largely.......... I'm all for banning the imported flour. Should be fun about two weeks after the last load was imported.
Are you mixing up dnipro and Danube?
He's an Irish tillage farmer from an enormous tillage related farm/company . It sticks in the craw a little bit.
Would have thought the majority of the feed imports would be going to pig, poultry and beef. But point the finger at dairy anyway, shure we are the target for every environmental.
France is a net exporter. Only reliant on imports of soy.
It would appear the French can't compete either otherwise why are they out blocking up the streets
Some difference in value here. They are expecting over 100,000 annual rent for the Irish one.
The French one comes with stock and equipment .
You joked on here @Gawddawggonnit previously before the war with another poster with having a farming interest east of the Dnipro.
This would be Russian occupied Ukraine now. May have been Russian occupied Ukraine then.
You were defending Putin publicly on here before the war. After the war began you were missed by your absence on here for over a month.
Were you personally helping the French farming group get out of Ukraine at the time or what happened after?
Vast majority here farm to a very high standard …..maby you should try come back here and farm a modest Irish farm …scale is clouding your judgement
Ah sure that’s alright so..it’s damn unfair to be expecting farmers sitting on millions worth to adhere to the same regs as everyone else.
Well the problem is that Irish supermarkets are a tiny portion of our market. The majority of Irish milk goes into commodities for world markets.
Pull the other one dwag you’ve no idea what’s imported to France but seem to know to the kg of the shyte we import
Can supermarkets not function without cheap food?
I'm no fan of the "sure we have to import grain to compete" brigade, but until supermarkets look for milk from Irish grain-fed cows, then you may as well lecture people to convert to organics.
The thing is with the cost of land here lads need to stock high to make ends meet.
A typical dairy farm in France with 200 Hectares would have only 100 to 150 cows, and lets face it that French farm would cost less than a 50 acre farm here. Similar situation in Holland.
You’re the exception rather than the rule.
I’ve no idea what comes into France, but Ireland and Holland are the main culprits. Remember the first ships to come out of UA? Where did they go?
Can Irish farmers not compete without cheap crap?
Well I can't speak for other lads but we wouldn't be feeding much purchase concentrates. We try to grow as much of our own as possible and feed a lot of pitted bread and distillers. The distillers would be from Irish barley and the bread from imported wheat mostly from England and France.
Do they not import any feed from South America to France.
Ah yea…only a pinch.
My dairy guy predicted that massive grants would expand dairy farms outside of their own farm..that was 10yrs ago, and he wasn’t wrong.
I advocate for producing whatever possible from inside the farm gate. I do it here. But calling something grass fed when gmo feed with zero phytosanitary certification, is hauled across the Atlantic in huge amounts, is hardly squeaky clean, is it?
That little ‘pinch’ of imported shyte actually amounts to millions of tons, so the lies start where?
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/tillage/news/feed-imports-into-ireland-rise-in-2022-752234
Was told it's to do with the sun / daylight that they dont come out as well in the summer
Contact time and fresh dry ice prob most important but I think the oil in the skin/ hair, "the shine", when at grass impedes it a bit.
Almost 3 times the margin the farmers get...
Really is that one true...had heard that years ago but didn't know as I haven't branded for decades
Ballpark figures
Tesco 1l milk = 105c
Farmgate price = 45c
Processor = 20c
Packaging/carton = 10c
Transport & storage = 5c
Staff costs = 5c
Refrigeration, lights, maintenance, etc = 5c
I’m only throwing figures out here but the basic point is that milk in the supermarket is a staple, like bread or veg. Supermarkets don’t charge a premium on it and are unlikely to change that approach
We freezebrand ours at 9 or 10 months. The number grows with the animal. I.e the white is thicker iykwim...
1 ton of imported grain supports 2000litres
1 ton of native grain supports 1750litres
ill just drop the mix there
We put pallets at both sides of front of crush to stop any side to side movement.
What is a Supermarkets profit margin on milk?
Milk is a low margin product for supermarkets. Imported feed helps keep it cheap.
Until supermarkets think people would pay more for something like “Irish grain-fed milk”, then the boats of soya will continue to sail across the Atlantic.
We farm in a free market. I hear tillage farmers lobbying hard to force us to use irish grains. It cant happen as it would be anti competitive.
If done when yearlings / maidens the numbers can grow with em a bit I find. A lot handier for breeding too. It does mean a 2 or 3 man job depending on crush facilities as more awkward to keep em still
