I advocate for producing whatever possible from inside the farm gate. I do it here. But calling something grass fed when gmo feed with zero phytosanitary certification, is hauled across the Atlantic in huge amounts, is hardly squeaky clean, is it?
That little ‘pinch’ of imported shyte actually amounts to millions of tons, so the lies start where?
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/tillage/news/feed-imports-into-ireland-rise-in-2022-752234
Ah yea…only a pinch.
My dairy guy predicted that massive grants would expand dairy farms outside of their own farm..that was 10yrs ago, and he wasn’t wrong.
Well I can't speak for other lads but we wouldn't be feeding much purchase concentrates. We try to grow as much of our own as possible and feed a lot of pitted bread and distillers. The distillers would be from Irish barley and the bread from imported wheat mostly from England and France.
Do they not import any feed from South America to France.
You’re the exception rather than the rule.
I’ve no idea what comes into France, but Ireland and Holland are the main culprits. Remember the first ships to come out of UA? Where did they go?
Can Irish farmers not compete without cheap crap?
The thing is with the cost of land here lads need to stock high to make ends meet.
A typical dairy farm in France with 200 Hectares would have only 100 to 150 cows, and lets face it that French farm would cost less than a 50 acre farm here. Similar situation in Holland.
Can supermarkets not function without cheap food?
I'm no fan of the "sure we have to import grain to compete" brigade, but until supermarkets look for milk from Irish grain-fed cows, then you may as well lecture people to convert to organics.
Pull the other one dwag you’ve no idea what’s imported to France but seem to know to the kg of the shyte we import
Well the problem is that Irish supermarkets are a tiny portion of our market. The majority of Irish milk goes into commodities for world markets.
Ah sure that’s alright so..it’s damn unfair to be expecting farmers sitting on millions worth to adhere to the same regs as everyone else.
Vast majority here farm to a very high standard …..maby you should try come back here and farm a modest Irish farm …scale is clouding your judgement
You joked on here @Gawddawggonnit previously before the war with another poster with having a farming interest east of the Dnipro.
This would be Russian occupied Ukraine now. May have been Russian occupied Ukraine then.
You were defending Putin publicly on here before the war. After the war began you were missed by your absence on here for over a month.
Were you personally helping the French farming group get out of Ukraine at the time or what happened after?
Some difference in value here. They are expecting over 100,000 annual rent for the Irish one.
The French one comes with stock and equipment .
It would appear the French can't compete either otherwise why are they out blocking up the streets
France is a net exporter. Only reliant on imports of soy.
Would have thought the majority of the feed imports would be going to pig, poultry and beef. But point the finger at dairy anyway, shure we are the target for every environmental.
He's an Irish tillage farmer from an enormous tillage related farm/company . It sticks in the craw a little bit.
Are you mixing up dnipro and Danube?
Yes mostly French maize used in Ireland (imported shite ya know) they have forgotten how to grow wheat here to the point its not profitable our flour comes from britian (third country outside the eu) and France largely.......... I'm all for banning the imported flour. Should be fun about two weeks after the last load was imported.
Possibly.
Hence its blocking the streets 🙄....
Look I know someone may and its only may make money on this farm by leasing it but for God's sake wouldn't a nice job with no responsibility or worry be a better option
The protests are in relation to cheaper products not up to eu spec coming into the single market and driving prices down
From the south east of Ireland, my understanding was he was just a guy moved to France to farm and milking cows.
It is as they are net exporters of excess grains hence the protest as its affecting their lively hood.
This is an anonymous forum. You certainly don’t know me, and I certainly don’t know you. Let’s keep it like that please.
French maize is solely used in Ireland for distilling. French maize is class 1, imported is class 3-4. When I load a truck with any produce I must have a full record of date of planting and harvesting, variety, and the phytosanitary certificate.
Phytosanitary certification involves all chemicals that were used, and when..along with a date and time of treatment, the humidity, temperature, wind speed, and time of day it was sprayed etc etc. That’s why distilleries want a good product. Millions of tons are coming into the EU with zero provenance and phytocertification.
Irish farmers are some of the best wheat growers on the planet..Odlums decided they could get a better margin by importing British flour and they closed the flour mills. That was a commercial decision by Odlums, not farmers.
What's coming from the cow is well 'stripped' before it enters the bottle/carton. No comparison to the real thing.
Can you imagine what could be done with that French place if it was ran properly
Would be a great opportunity to a young fellow with some get up and go.
And do you get a premium over South American stuff.
It has to be standardised alright but there wouldn't be much stripping to fresh milk. Especially in winter time the fat and protein would be fairly low .....stale milk would be a different story . Its the homogenisation makes the difference in the taste ....I think anyway
