He died earlier from a heart attack, very curious guy whatever you think of him. If he didn’t kill Sophie Toscan du Plantier he certainly didn’t help himself by his attention seeking behaviour.
Ok, maybe if he got there earlier things might be different. But it would have been dark when he got there anyway. The body would have been out in the open for at least 12 hours at that stage. He did ask for the body be taken to Cork, but that was overruled by the local Gardaí and Sophie was left out in the open overnight, which was always hard for her family to come to terms with.
Did we ever get an explanation as to why local Gardai were over-ruling Harbison? That doesn't seem like typical behaviour.
Well tbh, I don't know if it was local Gardaí, but he was over ruled
I read somewhere over last few days that the local guard in charge also stopped the investigating officers down from Dublin from completing their work until Harbison arrived - these were specially trained scene investigators - again very strange - think it was the GSOC report but I might be wrong
One thing I noticed in the documentary and podcast is that Bailey said Dermot Dwyer came to his house prior to his arrest and asked him if he played poker.
I wonder at that time was the theory that a poker was the missing murder weapon and it was a ploy on Dwyer's part to gauge Bailey's reaction...
It's interesting. Dwyer denies saying though.
Fair point, time is of the essence.
You do know this is a 27 year old investigation yeah?
Yeah I’ve heard that brought up a number of times - but I think it’s just simply about Baileys calm under pressure demeanour when having a Garda focus on him coupled with the concept of bluffing - the inspector obviously couldn’t get to Bailey which I imagine caused him no end of grief .
If you get abusive towards people for having a different opinion to you then maybe a public discussion forum isn't for you!
Yes, the "lads down fron Dublin" weren't impressed, they turned up and found the Garda station in darkness and locked, the local public phone had been vandalised and they had to do a bit of 'repair work' to contact Bantry I think it was.. Some of the crime scene photos appear to be taken at night, so they must have gone to the scene. Reading between the lines I'd say the local Cork lads didn't exactly welcome the Dublin lads on their manor.
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Rosie is best ignored, especially later in the day.
Yes obviously I'm aware of the year.
Was bailey calm under pressure, i didn't think so
I still think it's a strange question.
Denying murdering someone isn't really bluffing anyway.
Bluffing is gambling with a weak hand and hoping your opponent believes you.
Ya can bluff with any hand weak or strong
It's not bluffing if you've a strong hand.
Well he never broke down (in front of Gardai) and confessed - so I have to assume that either he didn’t do it or was very calm under pressure. I’m sure it wasn’t a Sunday picnic when they interviewed him- his account of the car journey after being arrested wasn’t pleasant
So obviously the inspector noted this calmness early in his dealings with him - not displaying agitated behaviour
Disagree probably
Anyway bailey was no hotshot under pressure afaik
Yeah I'm not sure if he was telling the truth about that. It seems over the top "You'll be found in a ditch with a bullet in the back of your head". He's a known liar so it's hard to separate fact from fiction.
Police interrogators are perfectly entitled to go hard on people to make them crack.
Well IF he did it, I’d say that’s exactly what he was when interviewed- could you cover up a murder you committed when being interviewed by a 1997 police force? I couldn’t
Correct, but it might instill a false sense of confidence.
It is quite funny really. Bailey said it, therefore it is true.
People with the dark triad of psychopathy/sociopathy, narcissism and Machiavellian would have no problem lying to police in an interrogation room. They'd probably enjoy it.
It's possible that Bailey had that dark triad but can't say for certain either way.
Oh not disputing that- but only supports the inspectors view that Bailey should take up poker - he obviously didn’t give away any typical signs of a guilty person -which only supports his innocent status for all this time - but it also then puzzles why he was witnessed in social company appearing to breakdown and confess albeit cryptically - I guess he was a strange person overall anyway
It’s possible Bailey was calm when sober, and they made sure he was sober when arrested, but that with drunk on board he became particularly inclined to be agitated. It was when drunk that he became violent towards Jules.
He blatantly and deliberately lied about his alibi when first questioned. If I was innocent, I'd just tell the truth and assume the criminal justice system would do it's job.
In the final episode of the Jim Sheridan documentary, he's asked about this and says he needs a comfort break and downs a glass of wine. Then it shows him on the couch later on watching TV and he's very drunk and is talking about the alibi again and he says "I better not talk about this now". He looks over to Jules off camera and it seems like she's gestering him to stop talking.
There's plenty of suspicion around him.
I'm suspicious of Jules also. She says the bonfire happened in November but it's completely credible it happened over Christmas.
That he most certainly did- whiskey was his big nemesis too apparently
I’m actually done with the analysis of the current evidence and the supporting shows- probably just bored with it at this stage - if there’s to be any change or breakthrough the last chance saloon is this year -when a file goes to the DPP it’s whatever they say - either way it will then be game over - but they’ll need one hell of a different set of evidence for the DPP expresses a view that a prosecution would have been likely - and I don’t see how they’ll have that - many witnesses are dead - indeed many other potential suspects other than Bailey are also dead - DNA evidence of Bailey if it exists at all, from the current set of items they hold should really have been found with the updated technology at this stage - even if it miraculously appears now (which in fairness is possible)- conspiracy theorists will flock to say it was planted - and the chain of evidence custody is likely to be in such disarray no one will be able to prove otherwise
Yeah I agree it should be put to bed once the cold case review is done unless it identifies another suspect or finds proper evidence on Bailey.
Jim Sheridan's working on another documentary so it'll come back into the limelight again I'm sure.
Rubbish. Quite aside from the daftness of a hitman with a rock, block, poker and whatever else, Daniel was the person who pushed for the case to be reopened and properly investigated after the Irish authorities had drawn a blank. He must be the first murderer in history who wanted a case reopened that didn't find him guilty! Sheridan hasn't a clue what he's talking about.
His computer hard drives and storage devices may well throw up some interesting material and point in an extra direction or two of enquiry or potential incrimination. Of course he might have put stuff down to further confuse the picture.
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