He died earlier from a heart attack, very curious guy whatever you think of him. If he didn’t kill Sophie Toscan du Plantier he certainly didn’t help himself by his attention seeking behaviour.
Tests have been done and nothing has been found yet, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Sophie’s lip was bitten and no DNA left? Ah here!
Did you not hear? Bailey pulverised his own DNA into oblivion with the concrete block.
The horse manure that some people on this thread have posted. Downright lies in fact.
No DNA left on the lip?
There was literally no head left, never mind a face.
Back then DNA could not be used as evidence if it was mixed with other DNA which is understandable, but science has evolved at an alarming rate and these days it is possible to separate and identify a mixture of DNA from one sample.
Are you going to tell us where you heard that Sophie's lip was bitten by the attacker?
Anyway, I heard it was Bertie Ahern, that they haven't found his DNA means nothing. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Some spoofers on here.
SO how it be determined what happened the lip, that it was bitten specifically and not from some other weapon or injury.
Where is 'bitten' mentioned in an actual autopsy report, and I don't mean rumours and lies being peddled by anonymous sources to the media.
Poor fella, Christmas on his own in a hovel.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/ill-be-alone-i-often-am-these-days-in-the-end-we-are-all-alone-ian-baileys-final-words-in-our-last-phone-call/a2008531654.html
Us?
Who are you?
Another anonymous internet user.
The more you avoid answering the question the more it looks like you're making it up.
What's the question
This was Jules' lip he's referring to, not Sophie's. And has caused a page of confused follow up comments ha
He bit Jules during an attack.
Nope. Literally said... Sophies lip.
Easy to be confused by nonsense.
https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121685599#Comment_121685599
The pathology report says Sophie's lip was cut. "Her upper lip was torn from the gum"
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/sophie-toscan-du-plantier-suffered-31936807
I think her face was mostly intact. Most of the damage was to the top and back of her head and around the ears and temple.
Cut yes but nowhere does it say anything about being bitten does it?
No mention of trying to match teeth marks in any report afaik.
Seems to be just peddling rumours.
He made it up or imagined it.
Note as well that it's not at all clear that Sophie was struck ~50 times with a weapon, although this is regularly accepted as fact. My recollection is that her body had that number of injuries, but it's possible that this included cuts from briars etc - i.e. the number of blows may have been much smaller.
Correct. It doesn't.
It would surely have DNA anyway.
There's plenty of info on the pathology report online.
Poor woman had a horrible ending.
Mud stains on the front of her PJ's shows she fell over a few times.
I know it's been said before, but Dr Harbison should've hopped on a plane or helicopter or train or even driven there directly. He was informed of her death at 2pm IIRC, so he should've been at the crime scene at 6 or 7pm easily.
An estimate of time of death is so important.
It took the forensic team over 7 hours to get there with Christmas traffic.
Interestingly they wanted to process the scene immediately and were told by the local Guard in charge under no circumstances are they to do that until Harbison gets there.
If Harbison did get there at 10 that night would a test to determine time of death even have been possible, given she was out in the elements at least a 12 hours at that stage?
Well certainly the people who would benefit the most out of Sophie no longer living lived in France.
His Eastern European Mistress certainly won the lottery, poor Daniel didn't last too long with her either.
It's worth noting Irish detective went to France wanting to interview Daniel and Co.
They were basically put on a plane and told fúck off.
Daniel had the most powerful friends.
Nice try at a bit of deflection there, Rosie
I'm not sure.
Maybe they could have ruled out the morning as time of death.
I still think it's unprofessional. Also they said he was out celebrating his birthday so couldn't contact him for a couple of hours. But why didn't he have a beeper or mobile phone. Mobiles were common by then.
He's entitled to time off from work but it's so important to be at the crime scene quickly.
By 11am they would've known it was a murder at the latest. So he could've been there at 5 or 6 pm easily.
Plane or helicopter? Harbison didn’t even have a driver. ffs
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She even had two children with him. He was in his late 50s by then.
He had a fine life riding young ones and attending film premieres.
Maybe helicopters unrealistic but there was flights from Dublin to Cork.
Alternatively, if he was after drink, he could've got a Garda or colleague to drive him.
You've probably seen it above by now, but the poster claimed Sophie's lip was bitten during the attack, then when asked for a source for the claim scurried off.
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I don't think he had much of a budget available. We were still a relatively poor country at that stage. As for getting a garda to drive him, very doubtful this would have been provided and also i don';t think he really had colleagues but if he did, they would already have been stretched that they could head off down to West Cork for a day or two.
I think it was this case that started opening peoples eyes to the disadvantages the state coroner's office faced
Yes it was - it was an absolute crazy situation - not long before the murder:
6th July 1996
Prof Harbison's report said the State Pathology Office was under manned and overwhelmed. Its laboratory did not have the
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/harbison-report-stresses-lack-of-resources-1.64735
Yes, I think it took the murder of a young man in a field down in Tralee the following year for him to get a deputy.
I believe Marie Cassidy was appointed his deputy around that time. (Dr. Cassidy's Casebook on RTE player is a a good watch)
If you want, google the stuff he had to deal with on his own, The Kerry Babies, The Stardust fire, Grangegorman, all horrendus stuff.
Ah yeah I’ve been around for all of those - obituary here
https://m.independent.ie/news/obituary-dr-john-harbison/39881768.html
He was a patriot that must have suffered in silence.
He should have had a team working under his supervision.
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