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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I mean, they could probably build 2 tanks a day in fairness.

    We could build two tanks a day if we wanted to. Whether they'd be any good is a hugely different matter.

    These fast tracked Russian tanks could be death traps that couldn't fire an insult, let alone a shell. And then there's the question of where the raw materials to make the tanks would even come from too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    And at the same time they claim there latest wunderwaffen the SU57 stealth fighter is going into a full serial production too with a brand new engine recently produced,but in saying Ive never seen more than 5 of the aircraft,but they it was claimed they have 20 available



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It's probably also not helping that the expertise and manpower you'd want to build extra munitions have either left the country, or are now fertiliser in Ukrainian fields. 350,000 dead Russians might stall making many of these pipe dreams a reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Exactly , I wouldn't have thought that they could produce a lot of anything been we are watching basic infrastructure falling apart from roads , water pipes and heating infrastructure,but yet 1000 + tanks and stealth aircraft are being produced, I'll happily wait and see if any of the above turn up this or next year



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    In 3 years time russia may or may not have collapsed by then. The war effort has put a lot pressure on their nation, 1000 more days of dead soldiers, destroyed equipment, pipe lines and oil’s refineries being hit, angry mothers/wives, disgruntled oligarchs…. And a lot more….. But of course a trump win might be a game changer….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It's less than a thousand days were only in the low 700s lets see it they can make it to the 1000 + days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,304 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If Trump is re-elected and pulls out of NATO while declaring he wouldn't help Europe Putin would know it's the only time in his life he could possibly attack the Baltic's and get away with it. He probably still has fantasies of capturing Ukraine, Moldova and Romania but he could easily throw a few hundred thousand men at surrounding the Baltic's.

    It's kinda sad Europe isn't dramatically ramping up shell and other weapon production as if we're already at war. All we can hope is Trump doesn't win and Russia can't sustain the war.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    He wants to cut NATO countries off from the black sea he wouldn't need to take all of the countries but just enough to hold the coastline from Odessa to Moldova , Romania and Bulgaria, which would give a buffer zone between Russia and NATO/EU states he could then militarise the whole black sea and would only have to deal with Erdogan in Turkey with access to the sea and the Med ,

    I don't see him trying to invade or occupy parts of NATO countries,I think it's fear mongering to get countries to spend on defence knowing that US and NATO could get divorced, and heading to three years of war in Ukraine NATO countries aren't meeting spending requirements,yes some countries like Poland have both many others haven't other countries would need massive modernisation programs but why spend when it's your neighbours who will have to respond to any foreign aggression



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    Sounds good, doesn't work. How will he attack the baltics? With what army? Is it a mysterious "A" army, that we're still waiting for?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭zv2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    You can see it's very difficult to tell what are mines and what are unexploded munitions, artillery strikes and craters from impacts , most of looking at that video seems to show please splash damage that they could see in the day light video



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    More lunacy from those crazy russian talking heads!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,189 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    If that's what they think maybe it's time NATO went in there for real?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Say if Russia collapse, would it be a good thing China taking over vast amount of siberia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 victorfranco


    But they are not begging for munitions. We are told to believe that Russia have to take apart washing machines for parts and components. I’m just looking at the numbers and the claims. NATO, from what I’ve read cannot produce a 10th of the artillery shells needed per month.

    I’m very open to correction but Leopards, Chalengers, Abrams, Bradley’s have all proved to be completely ineffective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭IdHidden


    Many people have said Chay Bowes is probably a Russian assist. All his stuff is very pro Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They already have a sizable population of Chinese both legal and illegal immigrants based in Siberia,they could well for a Putin and send troops to protect there citizens ,but if China was able to take a piece of Russia there would be no stopping them expanding into other countries,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    They aren't ineffective, there have been issues where they are not performing as well as promised in the reality of prolonged war conditions, especially the leopards but the Bradley's are a big help.


    The problem like all the western military aid is that there just isn't anything like enough for what Ukraine need to beat the Russians out of the occupied ground.


    Easier to talk about sanctions causing Russia problems maybe next year or 2026 etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 victorfranco


    China are almost 95% Han. They have no designs at all in controlling or absorbing other peoples. That’s why they are not expansionist. Why would they care about Siberia? They don’t want the headache of controlling people who are not Han.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,189 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    UK preparing for war..

    'America is reportedly planning to station nuclear weapons in the UK in response to the growing threat from Russia.

    They would be kept at RAF Lakenheath in Suffolk under the proposals - which are detailed in The Telegraph.

    It says Pentagon documents reveal contracts for a new facility and "show the US intends to place nuclear warheads three times the strength of the Hiroshima bomb at the air base".

    The paper says it would be the first time in 15 years that America has stationed nuclear weapons in the UK.

    "Unredacted documents on the US department of defence’s procurement database reveal plans for a 'nuclear mission' that will take place 'imminently' at RAF Lakenheath", reports The Telegraph.

    The nuclear weapons that could be located at the base are reported to be B61-12 gravity bombs, which can be deployed from fighter jets.

    The Telegraph says it's part of a NATO programme to "develop and upgrade nuclear sites" in the wake of Russia's invasion.

    Responding to the report, a Ministry of Defence spokesperson said: "It remains a longstanding UK and NATO policy to neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons at a given location."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The Abrams 6 that they received haven't actually been deployed to combat just yet they lost a few leopards and at least 2 challengers out of a handful, while the Bradley's have been effective when they have been used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If Ukrainian progress on their offensive last Summer was slow, then Russian progress in their localised offensives is positively glacial. The battle of Avdiivka has been officially running for almost two years, now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Good God, that must be strong stuff they're knocking back! Off to the front with 'em.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The UK intelligence thinks it will hold out for a few more weeks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,321 ✭✭✭jackboy



    There would be natural resources in Siberia. China (if Russia collapsed) would be well capable of controlling local populations although 'controlling' is probably not the correct word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭IdHidden


    Just because they will lose their imperial war against Ukraine does not mean Russia will collapse, no more so than the U.K. collapsed when we got our freedom.

    Its part of the Russian propaganda narrative don't support Ukraine or there will be chaos and China will gain etc. etc.



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