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The US tour have caved, I don’t see why McIlroy owes them any more than he has already given.
Rory is the most popular golfers on the planet who is playing. Tiger is obviously the most popular golfer ever but Rory is second to only him.
Mickelson was more popular than him but he lost his popularity when all the stories broke about him and he joined that other tour.
And if you read that article he explains why he changed his mind, the mist important comment is "I've changed my tune on that because I see where golf is and I see that having a diminished PGA Tour and having a diminished LIV Tour or anything else is bad for both parties."
Now I don't agree with him. I think if you stick to your guns that in the end you win the battle no matter how much money they have.
Do you hear anybody talking about Rahm now? He's almost forgotten about already. He's not important. There's only three golfers who would make that other tour a bigger deal, that's Tiger, Rory and Jordan Spieth.
I'm anti that tour and anybody who joins it is insulting women and the LGBT community among other things.
I'm disappointed that Rory has backed down.
I think it’s pathetic, the poster boy for anti liv, behaved like a child to those who joined and now this lol
In fairness, he has taken over the mantle as the most prominent member of the tour, he also was a member of the board at the time, so there may be some reasons to be critical, this is not one of them.
He’s the most popular golfer after tiger woods and holds huge sway within the players themselves. He can’t control who reports what he says and website publish it because it gets clicks.
The circumstances have changed and his opinion has changed, nothing wrong with that imo.
Nah but he goes on as if he runs world golf tbh. It’s a bit much hearing him non stop when he hasn’t won’t a major in 40 odd
TBF, the secretive way the agreement between the tours was agreed, and then announced behind his back cut the knees out from under him. I’m not at all surprised if he is bitter about the way he stood for the American tour, then they go and get into bed with the Saudis. He is right to change his viewpoint on LIV players, why should he go against them while his tour negotiates to join with them for certain parts of the tour.
Only an idiot doesn't change their mind.
Is the world so completely football-ified at this point that someone isn't allowed to change their opinion?
Rory came out against LIV being allowed on tour.
Things move, progress, discussions are had, and Rory changes his mind on whether golfers should be allowed back.
I really dont get the massive issue people seem to have about this.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/68151319 , it kinda baffles me why people on here are surprised that he isn’t universally loved.
Yeah it's a big tournament now and it's a true test, sg t2g, approach, putting and even scrambling are important. The greens are very small.
You'd expect the likes of Rory, Scottie and Hovland to contend.
$20 million purse 😮 & future site of US Open (2027) Hope he continues the form hes showing in recent events.
Interesting to see Rory playing Pebble Beach this weekend . He’s never won here but don’t think he’s played much at Pebble.
the smart shot from everyones perspective to get the lowest score.
the knocking the ball out rather than trying to hit the green from thick rough with trees in the way
hitting the ball to reduce the chances of going in the water or into bunkers into trees.
they all do it
They're both absolutely unreal. Irish sports fans are lucky to have either of them.
I'm not in disagreement with you on any of that.
The thing with the conversation is giving him the options. Explaining the reason for the option you know he prefers less is the important part.
He makes his mind up then and the caddy just agrees with him, tells him the yardage and the line and walks away.
You see that with most of the top pros and their caddies.
Rory has only been top ten in par 5 scoring average once in the last five season, not including this one.
He was third two years back, he had an 18th as his next best.
I think most people who didn't know this would be confident he's been top five every year.
I contend that being too aggressive is the reason for this.
I do agree it is clear to see the Harry is just a bag carrier.
But - we just don't know what it takes for Rory to perform - he might like total control - and this control is part of his routine and psychology - conversation may interrupt his sequence.
It may be what works best for him - and obviously he knows best.
I will add - in the modern game , this is very unusual - you can name most caddy pro set ups - and it is very different, down to them even calling it them making the call - them almost making the choices and shots.
I've been to loads of tournaments and followed Rory for the full round every time. Anytime I get up close there's no conversation except on occasion around the green when Rory has a very difficult shot.
All you ever hear Harry say is yardage and line.
I'd just like to see Harry have a conversation. Rory could very well be one of those guys whose going to do his own thing no matter what's said but even having the chat starts a reset which is a good thing.
Pádraig Harrington was unreal at times, I've been told this first hand.
In practice for the 2006 Ryder Cup at the K club, Padraig was driving the ball like God, best player off the tee by miles.
He turns up for the first match with a new driver.
There's no talking to them sometimes.
Edit to add: I just want him to start winning majors again. I am pretty certain that he makes mistakes that cost him just from taking a foolishly aggressive approach on certain holes where more conservative shot selection is a better option.
Nail on head.
Ah stay, tell us your opinion on Katie Taylor 😂
Again, unfounded assumptions. I don’t detest sports people, I don’t know or care about them enough to have that strong an emotion towards them, it just suits your narrative to assign that opinion to someone you know nothing about.
In relation to closing out tournaments, the fact that you have an issue with commentary about closing out tournaments, and in the same post reference your belief that he has underachieved, seems odd. That same underachievement you speak of often results from not closing out tournaments, or seemingly losing focus at crucial times. The two are interlinked, you acknowledge the what, but seem to have a problem with the why.
Exactly, we've always had a time when we had a golfer or golfers who might compete in A major (outside of Padraigs purple patch), but we've never had a golfer who's basically at the top end of the conversation in every major he plays in (even if he ultimately doesn't perform)
I'm not sure I believe you. The only time you ever post on the golf forum is to come on to this thread to stir the pot about Rory's ability to close out tournaments, particularly majors. You so obviously detest Rory, your post history proves that very clearly. I also think you get a kick out of winding up fans of Rory.
Rory is a sensational talent who has underachieved at majors. His only failing in a stellar career. From what i can see he is doing all the right things to remedy that.
I won't be engaging in any further conversation with you. Pointless. Your views are very clear.
You are making baseless assumptions, confusing comment on performance with personal animus, don’t put words in others mouths, it’s lazy commentary.
When/if he wins another major, I’ll be just as happy as you, I just won’t tell others they have to be happy too.
It is a golf forum - and I assumed most golfers in Ireland cared how Irish golfers do. You clearly are one of the ones - who just doesn't like him.
What will you say - if / when he wins another major.
Ah hear, he’s a golfer, not a family member.
It is clear that some of the posters here - just don't like Rory - so there is always a sort of schadenfreude when it comes to Rory.
I would say to them - they should try understand what it was like , to not have Irish golfers anywhere near the top of majors - you'd be lucky to see one in the top 10 of an Open Championship - never mind a debate over if he will win a grand slam or not.
People are often over romantic about a much lauded period of Irish golf, the 80 and 90s. But - when you have a pure winner come along like Rory , cherish them deeply - because when that time is gone - there is no guarantee you will get another one.
Even Lowry - he has been very poor since his Open - just be careful what you wish for , when you are not enjoying the good times.
Who out there now is the next Rory ? Who is going to be chasing majors in 5 years time ?
Unless you are caddying for Matt Kuchar 😉
But the smart shot from who's perspective ? I guess my point is that too often us mere mortals get sucked into a conservative, trying not to lose, as opposed to trying to win mindset when we're judging the very best.
As regards risk, i think there's levels of risk. I dont think they'll ever take on a shot without knowing they have it in the locker. Well, almost never, there's obviously exceptions. By and large touring pros play very conservatively.
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