I remember a kind of off road cycling course developed there from piles of earth and rubble. Lots of fun in the late 70s/early 80s!
Looks like R&H Hall may finally demolished:
No explosions 😭
I'll miss that building. I'd love to have seen it repurposed but it probably wasn't economically viable.
I appreciate people like different things but I just don't get how so many people seem to like that building. It's an eyesore, that looks like something the Soviets would have built in deepest darkest Siberia. Personally can't wait for it to be gone and for the planned development to (hopefully) go ahead.
All the glass in the Glass Box Quarter would shatter!
Would give me an excuse to work from home again 🙃
It's a matter of taste 😜
Its a godawful looking thing but if it was to be incorporated into new building would be great. Obviously not to be, will be strange not seeing it
Would have been a money pit to repurpose. Don't mind seeing it go. But I would really love to see the Odlums building and the old maher's sport building and the one next to it beside the bus station restored. Would be a shame to see them knocked and replaced with glass boxes.
While all these developments are great can't forget the existing city. As I said here before Christmas couldn't get over the state of Washington Street before Christmas. Would badly do with some TLC
Actually a good summary of plans on today's independent
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/south-docks-project-hailed-as-game-changer-for-cork/a1416466219.html
This is just PR masquerading as Journalism. All we're getting here are more glass boxes similar to the other O Callaghan development further along the quay. Nothing game changing about it from the same company that bought us the architectural meccas of the Paul st. car park, the merchants quay shopping centre, and the North Main Street car park.
Game changing would be to actually have a serious go at repurposing R and H Hall, maybe as a museum or an arts centre, and gift it to the community; rather than finding good excuses to get it demolished, and build more crap that's going to make a wealthy, but visionless and possibly corrupt, family even wealthier.
The only reason they're keeping the Odlums building is because the building has a preservation order and cannot be demolished, so they have to find ways to make it work.
It'd make a great climbing wall.
It's a fecking grain silo in a city crippled by lack of housing and you want some pie in the sky project?
Jesus wept
Bitter much? Those grain silos are nothing but an eyesore and were never intended to be anything but. Arts centre?? What a waste of prime development space... People want housing, we need hospitals for our aging population, both of which we are getting with this development. Tbh I can't wait to see all this area redeveloped. Bar the Odlums builing there is hardly a single building in the area worth keeping.
The sooner that disgusting Soviet-esque block is a pile of rubble the better. Arts centre? Marina Market has more than enough space for that
I'm always entertained by the reaction some people have to other people mentioning they have a fondness for this building.
Passed by that old CMP Dairy site on the Kinsale Road, there is quite a lot of site clearance work being done there currently.
I wonder is this a sign of some progress on this site ?
It is rather funny. They just cannot understand that their opinion on the building is merely an opinion and not a fact!
I heard Cairn homes bought that site with planning but didn't hear they were close to starting on it.
There was people sad the old tax office on Sullivan's Quay was being demolished too because of its "unique" architecture!
Guilty.
I really miss the old government building on sullivans Quay. I loved the proportions of it and its lines, as immortalised in the Sample Studios logo.
I like the building TBH it's so stark and I've grown up with it but it's no way suitable for anything else
T'was better than the current empty hole that's increasingly looking as if it's going to become permanent.
How much do you think it would cost to repurpose R&H Hall as a museum? To make it anything worthwhile you are easily talking €50 million+ You expect a relatively small time local developer to spend this on a project with essentially no return?
I always liked R&H Hall, but then I am a fan of brutalism.
As far as I remember the design of the building replacing the silo reflects its shape in the skyline entering Cork from the East which is a nice idea.
There's already a heavy rail connection to Midleton. Why would you get rid of that and replace it with a tram? It's a very long distance for a tram: city centre to Midleton is c.20km and trams really only work where there is a lot of development and frequent stops. That wouldn't be the case here.
I use the Midleton line to get to work and it would be a serious downgrade if it became a tram over the current plans to electrify the heavy rail commuter line. It would be slower and have less capacity, not to mention the waste of ripping up existing rail infrastructure.
All of that is correct , admittedly theres is supposed to be a lot more stations going in , 1 in waterrock , in theory 1 between waterrock and carrigtohil , 1 in industrial estate in carrigtohil ( wont happen) , another at north esk for park and ride , 1 more at north docks ( if it was a light rail you could have 2 or more ) , and then link a midleton light rail to the fictional through city -western city ballincolig line
Basically a straight through ballincolig- ,MU,CUH,UCC- city -north docks- carrigtohil -midleton line , so 40 odd kms ,
If it shared the same gauge as mainline ,you wouldn't really rip much up.. i've been on trains in france that had 2 different entry heights ( as in for tram stops and train platform stops )
None of it would ever happen anyway ,so 😁,
I'll believe any of this the day I see Monard and Blackpool/Dublin-hill
The planned high frequency interchange at Kent between the Luas and the commuter rail would achieve all that and more without the need for dual gauging the line. It would also prevent conflict between the Cobh heavy rail train and a theoretical slower Luas using the same line.
If we got what is planned we'd have a pretty good transport system without adding on fantasy elements that aren't on the radar.
Both of those are pipe dreams and the very definition of "believe it when you see it".
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