The lad from Redhouse Holsteins gave a presentation to the KHFB last night. Feeding 6000 Kgs concentrates and I think it was 13000 Litres herd average.
That's some feeding, what precautions would be needed to protect against acidosis at that kind of level..or what would average kg intake per day be then..must be alot higher than the 18kgs teagasc tell us will keep cows going
Just out of interest what's your opinion of indoor 11k plus systems like in the North? Or does it all just depend on milk price
Talking to one man recently who wanted to cut feed costs next year. I'm not a nutritionist but he was pushing hard to get the yield was hard to see where he could shave on costs
intakes double what teagasc tell us....
david irwin from redhouse holsteins told us last nite he gives each cow a 10week dry period.. he would be drying off a cow who would still be doing 40litres.... i was a bit shocked.. but he was adamant performance/yield in next lactation would suffer if cows didnt get 10weeks dry....
Her TB test is nearly up. Would you have to test her if you bought her. It's a risk and a pain. I would always try and breed a few heifers, they might be the best cows in Ireland, but at least you know what you have. SCC, temperament, TB status
Not enough money in it tbh- the first 5000 litres from forage is the cheapest
I’m tb testing next week that’s why I’d 30 out today- going to the factory tomorrow with another batch- heavier finished cows and 2 canners
anyone who bought my stock would have to tb test them within 30 days- however the heavier ones will be hung up this evening I’d imagine
Would you not be terrified of one of the mart cows going down in a tb test, would be some ball-achce getting locked up coming into the spring, your own vet might let you away with a ropey one, once their gone out of your hands, it's Russian roulette
My neighbour sent cows to factory last Friday …one with suspected legions ….he’s last test was early October ….I’ve got no letter yet but sweating they’ll lock me up now ….annual test end march and hate testing this time of year due to possible abortion and getting locked up and having to keep all calves
they don't even bother with the letter any more you might get a text message to say your locked up the ifa should take a test case to the high court any one has a right to make a living and its been taken away from farmers with tb
Ye but if I get a clear test after and then another one in 6 weeks I’m grand
Yep anyway at cows any length of time will agree with that I think
Crikey and I'd struggle to get the father to dry off anything milking more than 10 litres...surely a cow cow milking 40 litres would have problems drying off..but I'm open to learning otherwise
Is it more profitable to go for another cow with 5000 litres than suffering the cost of raising the yield of the exiating cow above the 5000
If he drying off cows doing 40l I would love to know what he's doing.
I have a few cows that were dried in 12th December, not in calf, only average silage, no nuts till two weeks ago and there are two still leaking a drop.
And the best day in their life 30l would keep them going.
I do like to give 8 weeks dry.
Present day if derogation goes altogether, it's probably a better option to put an extra 2 ton of feed to get to a 8000 litre cow, than have a land rental cost of 400 a cow for the extra 5000 litre cows if your short of ground, especially if you haven't the infrastructure to expand in the first place
I'd be putting 3 bags of heiferlac and circa 700kgs of meal into the heifers here in their 1st year, you have to grow their frames to get their full potential, when you see 450kgs and less incalf feb calving heifers at the current sales alot of men could do with feeding their youngstock alot better rather then listening to aidan saying good grass is all your heifer calves need
Down here it’s 60 days after reactor leaves your farm you get first test ….then a second 60 days later again before you get free
They should be getting the reactors out ASAP imho. Luckily haven't had one in 5 years even tho in a bad area. I ghimk crossbreed and nr have less of a chance of getting it(just a theory)
Agree on getting them out asap …but sometimes farmer has to carry some blame due to been peed off at dvo and the valuation
i always accept valuation good or bad and they still are over 2 weeks getting the animal out. not good enough. Average time of removal in Ireland is 21 days plus in tb free or low countries its 3 days.
8000ltr is a fair yield averge includeing heifers your into a different cow which wud require probably diet feeder and more than just meal.Fertilityis hard to keep right you cud easily end up with the costs of a 10k ltr cow
yara after buying a depot in new ross, competition will be hot this year in the south east
merchants trying to shift last years stock, the yarn we got was the shipping in sues canal is stopping fert...along with calf teets:)
norway and russia dont travel that route so we shouldnt have any disruption
Got that Red Sea BS about tyres too. Fecking salesmen
Will we see CAN at sub €300?
It already is well below that
If we’re serious about emissions nitrates etc etc can based products should not be imported into this country
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Why not?
Urea apparently has much less of a loss or something like that 🙄🙄 personally I despise using urea (apart from foliar application) . And I'm really wary about the usage of protected urea .... now maybe I'm wrong but I just Don't see how these inhibitors can't cause problems
