He died earlier from a heart attack, very curious guy whatever you think of him. If he didn’t kill Sophie Toscan du Plantier he certainly didn’t help himself by his attention seeking behaviour.
Just type what you're looking for into Google and let me know if you find any mention of a stick or poker in either of the pathology reports.
The Guardian?
Okeydokey.
I don't think the pathology reports are online.
The slate and the cinder block were used to finish her off though.
The initial assault was with another weapon. Something more mobile.
Don't know where you are getting your info from but you seem to be the only person that thinks a slate and a stick/poker with a serrated edge were involved.
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Two different Directors of Public Prosecutions reviewed the garda file and deemed there to be nothing there that could warrant taking it to trial. To our knowledge there has been nothing new of value added to the file so why do you think a third DPP would view things differenty?
As for the Gardai only looking at Bailey - what does that tell you about the investigation? Does it not tell you that they have their man and now just need the evidence to get him? Is that how investigations are carried out? Isn't that how the Kerry Babies case was investigated and remind us how did that end up again?
Of course it's only a maybe
The speculation is that the case file is being strengthened
No guarantee of anything
Your second point
Yes they had their man and fitted up the eyewitness testimony to attempt to secure a prosecution
Bailey aroused suspicion early on at the scene according to reports
I don't know the exact timeline of how he first came to be arrested but his false alibi and various ways he got scratched is beyond suspicious
If we're scratched all over from brutally murdering someone, would you go the crime scene the next afternoon, interviewing and speaking with police at the cordon?
Just repeating myself I guess - Joanne Hayes was brought to the attention of the investigating gardai quite quickly and they decided that they found their man (sic). No matter what other facts came to light, they steadfastedly believed she was the mother even stretching the story as far as superfecundation. The gardai managed (using violence) to get confessions out of her and the family. Also remember that this wasn't a local bunch of Muldoons - this was Ireland's crack murder investigation team. Remind me if you believe that she was beyond suspicion
I don't have an explanation for that re the scratches
He drew attention to the scratches when he didn't have to
Also first aroused suspicion among gardai by his behaviour at the crime scene
My “hope” is that they’ve learned their lesson- you’re right though it took decades for anyone to apologise for the Kerry Babies debacle - Gardai don’t apologise too often and it’s usually after a considerable amount of time - with the current commissioner all we’re getting is defensiveness- until they become more open and transparent (without being stupid about it from a security or investigations perspective of course) faith in the Gardai will only ever be mixed.
I don’t expect them to be subservient on every minor point but right now there’s very little accountability
Jesus, have you told the DPP about this evidence you have on Bailey? They couldn’t find any
So you can contaminate the crime scene and explain thats why evidence you were there is found?
He knew the crime scene would be cordoned off.
Good luck with that hope 😀
The “evidence” has been gone over ad nauseam at this stage - only new definitive evidence will break this case- reinforcing old witness statements by saying something like “this witness is really really really sure” won’t cut it 😀
Id say DNA is the only possible breakthrough at this stage - but even then, the chain of possession of the evidence, where it was stored, who had a access to it etc would want to be cast iron had Bailey been alive to face trial. But his DNA at the scene of the crime would satisfy most people I’d argue
Look the main and only suspect is dead, why is this thread still active after 5 days ?
Do you people shouldn't be be discussing it?
I don't see the harm.
If people want to discuss it, let them.
It's better for Sophie and her family's sake to keep the case alive. Not that any of us will solve it but who knows.
I don't believe there's been any evidence of his DNA at the crime scene which since the scratches etc seem to be viewed as evidence, you'd expect something.
and if there was viable DNA evidence of anyone else bar Sophie at the site this tread wudnt exist.
You have fact checked all his books have you?
Unfortunately journalists in Ireland not all of them but quite a few imbed themselves with the Guards.
In some ways they have to get the inside "scoop", the problem with that is as we have seen in the past all too frequent, they become a mouth piece for the guards.
You'd be far better off reading the opinion of Mick Clifford especially pertaining to this story.
Retired pat marry was talking recently about how Bailey contaminated the crime scene?
perhaps because the case is still open and the who and why Sophie was murdered is still very much an unknown.
There are also serious questions which need to be addressed about the conduct of the original investigation which have yet to be adequately answered.
Don't think Alfie crunched the numbers and put it through a statistical formula.
I was 95% sure I left my keys on the breadbin this morning, I didn't they were on the couch.
You are either sure or you aren't.
Fine for keys, not so fine when someone's liberty and life is at stake.
With what?
He mustn't have done a very good job, because nothing from him was found at the crime scene - either from the supposed attack or alleged contamination. Couldn't even contaminate a scene when he wanted to. He must be teflon.
Or he didn't actually try to or actually contaminate the crime scene?
According to the Garda file Bailey is noted as appearing at approximately 14:20 on the day of the murder, at the initial cordon, and then was moved back to the wider cordon when that was established. He would have parked outside the cordon at the time but inside the what became the outer cordon. Unless that is what is meant - but then multiple other vehicles were also in that area.
Alfie was a stoner in his 60s.
Hard to know how sharp his mind was.
Ya marry may not even know
Has it ever been established whether bailey did in fact contaminate the crime scene or not
He didn't.
He only went as far as the police cordon.
Well, there's no evidence he actually contaminated the scene. Because nothing of his was found, ascribed to the crime or contamination.
As to whether he tried to contaminate the scene.
Nick Foster is pushing it, but when you look at what he is actually saying, it's based on an anonymous source and then Foster "going through" the Garda File. So seems dubious. I'd need a more than this to credit it.
And according to the actual Garda File, the first report of Bailey at the scene is at 2:20 at the cordon.
Mr Foster, 55, from Liverpool in the UK, told the Irish Sunday Mirror that his source claimed the killer was there on the morning after the murder.
He added: “The source said the killer even knelt down over the body of the dead woman.”
...
“A person, whose name was given to me, was able to penetrate the crime scene on the morning after the murder and even knelt down over the body.
“It took me a while to go through the Garda file looking for clues, but they’re there.
https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/killer-returned-kneel-over-body-22516347
