He died earlier from a heart attack, very curious guy whatever you think of him. If he didn’t kill Sophie Toscan du Plantier he certainly didn’t help himself by his attention seeking behaviour.
Not sure why murderers do what they do. Maybe he didn’t want to kill his partners daughter. I don’t know.
Below is exactly what I said, then I outlined her 2 arrests, gave you the literal legal definition for the 2nd one, I assume you don't need the legal text for murder?
I also believe Jules doesn't know he killed her
That would be contrary to guards theory who arrested her twice.
Not only did Jules know about it she was involved in it.
Begs the question why he didn't head up to the daughters room if he was in a sexual rage.
Far better than plodding across fields píssed out of his head no?
That's well documented afaik
That's not backing up what you said, her being arrested twice
You said she knew and was involved
Of course it doesn’t. Just many of the list of things as to why he was and likely still is a suspect.
Extremely inappropriate behaviour TBH.
It would be fair to suggest she did not like him very much.
Being a drunken sleaze does not mean he battered someone to death with a rock though.
Her statement did back up this though.
Ms Thomas said Mr Bailey had killed three turkeys for Christmas on Sunday, December 22nd, 1996. She said he had then climbed up a tree to cut off the top to use as a Christmas tree and she noticed scratches on his hands when he came back down.
good plan.
A publication that currently includes a definitive guide to crystals and 10 healing stones to add to your collection?
Maybe we can dangle a crystal from a piece of string and finally get the definitive answer to the murder.
Yeah in this case there’s always going to be jumps there is no hard evidence. For example -French hit man with a rock… oh what a jump.
Yes that was widely documented in subsequent years alright - it points to a potential sexually deviant behaviour alright but again this was towards someone he knew (albeit the young daughter of his partner) - it’s still a jump in thinking to believe he’d seek out a stranger in the middle of the night no less kill her when she spurned his advances.
But is it possible? Absolutely it is 😀
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/ian-bailey-made-advance-on-partner-s-daughter-18-trial-hears-1.3909355. But again I’m sure you’ll all claim nothing to see there lol. Also to note this was BEFORE he was accused, I know people love the oh well if you were accused of murder you’d be a bit weird too bolix line.
He made advances towards Jules 18 year old daughter, she gave a statement about this.
First I heard about this? Have you citation?
id imagine gardai believe there could have been a sexual motive. He made advances towards Jules 18 year old daughter, she gave a statement about this. That is fairly out there behaviour.
Considering they didn’t have a “friendship” no less a relationship, for me, to believe he trekked to her house that night/morning, you have to start believing that we’re in the territory of a Larry Murphy type mindset of attack/murder, where he seeked out victims/strangers from afar- he was a violent man towards women yes- but was he that calculating also?
Again, no evidence to suggest that he had this secret world of past crimes hidden completely from those that knew him well. He was also a drunk and committed assaults on women when drunk- hardly a cunning and calculating master criminal - more a pathetic excuse of a man that could easily be caught had he committed such crimes outside of his home.
The abuse of a partner usually depends on there being some form of controlling relationship in place - he didn’t have anything resembling “relationship” of any kind with Sophie and by now, you’d think that something would have come to light- so I do find it very hard to believe that he went to her house on that night. I’d love to know what Gardai believe was his motivation and what evidence they might have.
They arrested her for murder.
Then they arrested her again 3 years later for S.7 (2) of the Criminal Law Act 1997.
7.—(1) Any person who aids, abets, counsels or procures the commission of an indictable offence shall be liable to be indicted, tried and punished as a principal offender.
(2) Where a person has committed an arrestable offence, any other person who, knowing or believing him or her to be guilty of the offence or of some other arrestable offence, does without reasonable excuse any act with intent to impede his or her apprehension or prosecution shall be guilty of an offence.
I’ll believe the more recent details in a publication. I’d be very very surprised if that journalist made up those times. Jules Thomas is litigious. But either way with everything , you are a contrarian.
You'll believe a random article over Image.iE over the DPP report and The Guardian? I think that destroys any credibility of any of your claims about this case.
You've already admitted when you said it was a claim just by some randomer on boards you knew the statement to be false and that it was based on sources.
You're waffling now, again.
Are you trying to dispute what I posted is factual?
Aren't you the lad who only found out yesterday that the gate did not go missing but was destroyed by the National Forensic Lab?
He was a crime journalist?
Well given the incompetence of the guards it wouldn't surprise if me he was able to. If he was the killer going there was the calculated risk he had to take. As a crime journalist he would surely have more knowledge about the subject than the average person. It certainly no more of a stretch than the idea a hitman decided to batter her with a rock. It's also strange that no other suspect ever really emerged. I would agree it still doesn't mean he did it of course
What was the sequence of events re: the alibi changes
Can someone post the short version
I’ll believe the more recent source. You said yourself you were not sure about 11. Bit of a bad faith argument from yourself.
Or it could be he was a crime journalist, a crime was committed in his locality and he wanted to sell the story.
Which is what actually happened.
Can you back up that last statement some way
Not saying you're wrong but based on her recent words I believe she doesn't know
Her providing an alibi I have an explanation for that
I wonder why people are vehemently defending every piece of circumstantial evidence that points towards known scum.
It would look a little suspicious if he didn't turn up, but then, it was winter, people get sick, flu or whatever, just take to bed.
Would he know how to contaminate a crime scene or even that he would have access to do so?
Would local crime journalists regularly be given such close access to a murder victim body they could contaminate the scene?
Seems a bit of a stretch.
He was a local journalist, he wrote stories about the murder, that is the most obvious explanation for someone turning up there and this is a bit of a stretch for me.
I have made similar point about the alibi, some of the haziness could be down to drink.
Well exactly, the story just never added up to me. It is a very weak motivation for a cross country trek on a cold winter's night on the off chance of what... after a previous 36 hours of drinking, killing turkeys, cutting down a christmas tree, sleeping on a friend's couch.
Then you add the implausibility of him being supposedly scratched at the scene yet leaving no forensics trace. It is implausibility heaped upon implausibility.
Killers are known to revisit crime scenes. It would look suspicious if he didn't go back in his capacity as a local crime journalist. By being there the next morning he may have thought any potential physical evidence could be explained away if he interfered with the scene.
If he was the killer, and with him being a crime journalist, he would surely know how to go about it. Also regarding inconsistencies in his alibi, perhaps he was careless rather than it being an indication he was innocent? He was an alcoholic by all accounts, so perhaps he was forgetful at times or had memory lapses. He was said to have blacked out with drink in the past.
