mikel97 wrote: » Its N2731G (prob CIA) yes Shannon
EI3301, SOU-DUB gone around. Would like to be on an ATR today.
Onboard account of this flight..
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/im-never-going-to-see-my-children-again-inside-the-terrifying-12-hour-flight-ordeal-to-dublin-during-storm-isha/a447953432.html
Ryan Air flew from Stansted over to cork, and back to Stansted? (5174?)
And we have a Go Around at Dublin.
FR5307 - RYR591N from Kerry.
We have a lear jet ?? 🤔
FR1401 TFS-ORK farting around cork after a brief hold and go-around, EI841 AMS-ORK next up.
METAR gives wind of 230° 26KT Gusting 38KTS
The worst one has to be the Ryanair from Lanzarote that got all the way to the Dublin hold, didn't bother holding but rather diverted to Bordeaux in the South of France!
A 5 hour flight to Bordeaux, wouldn't you be fuming
From what I can see these are all automatically generated news items with zero human input. It's good automation if not much else.
Could have been anything from closer options being out of wind limits or already full and not accepting non-emergencies. Manchester alone took at least 4 emergencies as well as multiple diversions. I know paper never refuses ink but if they're writing an article about every diversion yesterday they'll be very busy.
I see they did cover the emergency 7700s yesterday, Swiss and Turkish probably not weather related given locations but still that's a substantial number for one day.
https://aviationsourcenews.com/emergency/jet2-flight-fails-to-land-in-belfast-declares-emergency/
https://aviationsourcenews.com/emergency/tui-flight-glasgow-sharm-el-sheikh-declares-emergency/
https://aviationsourcenews.com/emergency/easyjet-flight-fuerteventura-edinburgh-declares-emergency/
https://aviationsourcenews.com/emergency/easyjet-flight-las-palmas-london-declares-emergency/
https://aviationsourcenews.com/emergency/easyjet-flight-fails-to-land-in-glasgow-declares-emergency/
https://aviationsourcenews.com/emergency/british-airways-flight-london-prague-declares-emergency/
https://aviationsourcenews.com/emergency/swiss-a220-zurich-dresden-declares-emergency/
https://aviationsourcenews.com/emergency/turkish-airlines-flight-istanbul-amsterdam-declares-emergency/
or worse, the EDI-DUB that ended up in cologne?
Probably so.....but what went on with the unfortunate FR555 that it ended up in France ?
I don’t know , my partner was delayed 2 hours but got home from London, she’d had have been pissed off if she flew emerald airlines. Ryanair seemed to get a lot of flights through last night , I’m sure all the Monday workers were happy with their effort.
There's even more to that one, I see on FR24 X that RYR6333 was originally FR633 Copenhagen-Dublin that had first diverted to Manchester after two missed approaches to DUB before beginning its second try for DUB from MAN a while later before ending up in Liverpool something like 7 hours after originally leaving CPH. Fun day for those pax and lots of others.
You definitely weren't the only one watching, I think when I was watching one of the later 7700s, an Easyjet heading for MAN, there were something like 35k watching it.
Yes, what happened yesterday was usual in terms of sheer numbers of missed approaches all over the place at multiple airports, very long diversions and multiple emergency 7700 transponders.
Thankfully everyone arrived safely back on terra firma even if it wasn't where they set out for originally.
If you are interested in hearing from a real 737 pilot on how fuel planning is carried out on days like yesterday, you can check out flightdeck2sim's YouTube live stream from last night where he simulated a flight from Dublin to Liverpool with the prevailing weather conditions.
Fuel plannings explanation starts at 12:06:
https://youtu.be/omyVYdpRNIw?t=726
TL/DR: fill it up to the point that you will still be below maximum landing weight/runway limits on arrival at your intended destination.
Safely is a bit subjective. There were no accidents. They also managed to complete 75% of the flights apparently.
FR5853 FCO-ORK gone around in cork and heading straight for Shannon.
In fairness the ATRs have lower wind limits than jets, so it would have been more obvious that Emerald wouldn't be operating.
Yesterday was off the scale in terms of disruption. The main reason being the usual diversion alternatives being MAN or BHX or London or Belfast, were all equally pushing limits too. It was unusual to see such a wide ranging wind event right across the UK and Ireland. Also being strong SW direction, none of the W facing runways were of much use.
Credit to the newest operator Emerald Airlines for calling it early (with all their ops on these islands) and cancelling the lot. Giving people clarity, presumably getting hotels booked in and a much more pleasant (albeit disruptive) travel experience.
You now have people scattered across Europe in countries they had no intention of being in!
Copenhagen ending in Liverpool. Edingburgh in Cologne. Zagreb in Luxembourg, the list goes on!
Madness putting planes up in the air, and struggling to get then down again safely.
Ant - man has been in the air 5hr 43 min and now heading to lys
DUB to EDI was meant to depart at 3.30PM, finally left but couldn't land after midnight. Now en route to Colonge or somewhere on the continent. Absolutely absurd.
I've missed out a whole chunk of this thread, but is that a record or near it for distance from your intended destination??
Never mind the time taken to get there!!
Looks like it's heading to cologne as is FR6761 sev - edi
FR816 took off 8 hours late from Dub to EDI, one go around and now headed south, currently above NCL - ouch.
edit - still climbing, could be off to Amsterdam!
Must be bad there too. FR2970 Tenerife - Edinburgh diverted to Amsterdam or Germany?
RYR1MC just landed on the third attempt. First time today I've seen a Ryanair plane having a third go.
Looks like RYR74VZ has had enough! Off to SNN!
Second aborted landing now with this one too.
Poor RYR74VZ is just circling in the Irish sea waiting for a third attempt.
It's both very strong winds and from a south westerly direction for a sustained time. That's very bad for DUB and ORK which have westerly and southerly runways. Hence BFS and SNN mainly operational.
apparently the oral part of the LC mocks in my niece's school have been postponed because a bunch of the teachers were in edinburgh for the weekend and look like they're stuck there - and a ryanair flight from EDI which was scheduled to land four and a half hours ago, just aborted a landing.
