he failed in his latest stunt during the week.... no harm
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/an-bord-pleanala-rejects-environmentalists-milking-parlour-appeal/
Planning is got, biggest issue is getting a concrete crew to take on the job at the minute
Is that place in the start of mr cvx’s video from today ?
Yep
You'd be wondering have the coops some hand in developments being talked about above. Farmer dissatisfaction is well known. There's clearance sales of people getting out. Milk supply was back last year for the first time since quota removal. In texas Glanbia had joint ventures in dairy farms for milk supply.
Locally there were rumours of a new development getting in difficulty and that Glanbia at the time stepped in to just have the farmer on a paid wage to run the place.
It wouldn't be beyond all possibility that the coops realise that to maintain supply a different tack is required but to give the impression of non involvement and an individual independent capital investment by whichever farming company.
An Irish solution to an Irish problem.
There is still a mandatory requirement from DAFM to stamp all cards after a TB test. It hasent changed -
That article is from 2020, I believe it has changed since then. A lot of vets are not stamping them any more
Stamping was never the problem it was the time taken signing. You wouls stamp a lot of cards with a date stamp in 10 minutes.
Daughter works in vets, doesnt take that long. Prefer to be busy is what she says. Interestingly the first day she started she was given a list of who not to give credit to. She was saying to me why do i know most of the people on it. They are not our vets
Passed a neighbours farm today and nearly crashed the car when I saw the afforestation notice up. It was a good operation milking 60 or so cows upto 10 years ago and then he went into calf to beef. 3 adult kids none with any interest. Good land a bit heavy but no rushes I thought it sad to see it going into forestry
Bore bia auditor don’t need to see the blue cards as don’t concern him and only the dept look for the blue cards ( they are the owners of the card) the nitrates inspection don’t look at the blue card as they have a printout of what’s in your herd, have had the auditor and nitrates inspections here and never looked at the blue card.
Well we had a nitrates inspection 3 years ago and he went through all the cards and the bord bia lads do also.
Any idea what a BF/Beef SH heifer calf would be worth?
Wouldn't you get fantastic labour efficency s in a setup like that.i was talking to a fella that was just home from nz.he was saying none of the farmers appeared to be killed out with work out there.its the winter and slurry fecks us here.out there the cows stay on the land most of the time and during the winter they might feed out a bit of silage with grass in the fields odd fella feeding beet and bales
What age
Just born.
If a good calf and you're not going to be waiting on genotyping 200 to 250?
I've heard the opposite, that the kiwi lads are fecked by the time they hit 50 and sell on!
We’re light years ahead of the kiwis now ….that sort of. Carry on over winter will do nothing for water quality …..no point in us comparing to them now as playing field ain’t level …..like they can still stack there winter silage in a field with no concrete or no collection tanks ….any young farmer would be better served doing a stint in Holland now as more relevant to how we operate here as regards compliance etc
Ireland is still a grass based dairy model, nz is still a lot more relevant to the majority as opposed to a high input predominantly indoor type setups Holland have with their token grazings to get their bonuses. Look at debt per cow in Holland compared to here that’s a road no young person should be encouraged down.
Remember doing the green cert. There was a fella maybe around 35-40. Married with kids. You could tell he knew his stuff about the practical things of farming. But when we went into the class room I'd say he would rather eat the keyboard than use it. Some people just aren't programmed that way. Id imagine the lecturer's had the right up his project for him in the end. Which I'd have no problem with because he was there everyday and knew his stuff.
Chap I knew did the green cert course after doing a degree first. He was lumped in with a load of lads just finished secondary school. He said the lectures were gas, the tutors would regularly have to intervene to split up wrestling match’s in the back of the classroom
How we farm and how we comply with the raft of regs is a bit different to the kiwi model ….imagine if we made silage pits in a field and had to deal with co co and dept inspectors to explain it ……Holland is more relevant to us in how we farm due to same compliance laws which are far higher than New Zealand
Maybe we can learn from the dutch in creative farming with regards regulation going forward....
I don’t think anyone goes out to nz to learn about regulations, the people going go there to see their efficiencies in a grass based system and where they can be implemented at home within our regulations.
What the media here reports about nz and what is actually going on out there re grass based is totally different
they feed a lot of meal and most farmers grow maize
Different set of rules tho ….we can’t get away here with what they do ……in a grass based model …..you could make a fair arguement that we are where we are now because our advisory models pushed a kiwi based model near blindly above all others
Not been smart you wouldn’t have to go there to see the efficiencies of a grass model ….we get enough of it through various outlets here as is ….I believe it’s a beautiful country and wouldn’t be against travelling there but I’d have little interest in seen too many farms tbh ….like to see how there cooperative model works and have good look at frontera
All countries in europe have higher environmental standards we are no exception.
The dutch dairy farmers are under more pressure than we are with new regulations and that has nothing to do with grass based systems
Even in new zealand regulations are having a big effect. I worked in nz 15 years ago and it was a free for all. I have keep in touch with the farmer i worked for and things are changing. It is near impossible to convert farms to dairy anymore and fonterra expect milk production to decline in the next decade because of the environmental rules.
I don’t agree with the nz model on a whole like I’d assume the majority of Irish farmers would but the way they produce milk regulations aside is far more relevant to any young person going abroad with placement from ag college then to a mainland European high input high cost system. Even if the kiwis do supplement with maize etc it might teach young people the best way to supplement in a spring based system to make them more sustainable and profitable.
The amount of farms milking all year round is shrinking constantly and young people won’t have any interest in going milking 365 with what’s available to them now off farm with far less hassle so I don’t see where the hunger to learn of the Dutch milk production system would come from.
