You need to learn about thermal printers. I've been using them for decades. Really cheap.
Decades ago I was installing them in pharmacies etc.
I know my car probably wouldn't fit how many cans it'd take to pay for what I was charging for the actual printer, but my employers were robbers.
Life is too short to go to this hassle for 15 cents an item.
My current printer was about €70, ten years ago, and a barcode costs me 0.4c to print.
Some people will see it differently.
There's people that will collect cans off the street for that money.
If you have the skills, premises and kit to print off fake barcodes you are realistically not going to be in a position where you need to pick litter off the street for spare change.
When I was a kid, we used to break into a local building site in the evening, gather up the mineral bottles the builders had left, and get... I dunno, 5 pence, 10 pence? - back per bottle. It kept us in crisps, ice pops and and comics during the summer holidays. Would I be arsed picking up cans on the street now for a 'free' 15c per can? No f'n way.
But hey, if someone is, let them at it.
Making fake labels? Well, if you have the time and energy and are that stuck, well, work away, I guess...
Win-win.
***If*** any deposits are paid back which shouldn't have been, it's very unlikely to be anything other than a tiny proportion, and probably far less than the deposits paid in but never claimed back.
The producer membership fees and fee per can placed on the market is to account for expected fraud. The charges are to be reviewed annually.
What was wrong with just throwing the cans in the blue bin which seemed to work fine for me anyway! Hmmph
I guess they want the people who don't do that, to start recycling.
If a large enough percentage of cans were being recycled, I'd image this scheme wouldn't have come about.
But enough glass bottles were being recycled that they didn't think it worthwhile including glass in the scheme?
And if it's to encourage recycling of cans, then why not bean/peas/tomato/petfood/whatever cans, as opposed to just drink cans?
And why not soft drink cans? (Or are they included?)
I mean, I might be wrong, or going off odd assumptions, but there's a lot about this that just doesn't add up.
All cans and plastic beverage bottles (excluding dairy) are included.
Soft drinks are included.
I'd actually suggest they could've introduced it for soft drinks first - the amount of Monster cans just fecked in ditches.
Dairy being exempt is quite annoying, wonder if it was lobbied for? Through the blanket dairy exemption, things like whey based protein shakes & dairy smoothies are not included, or canned coffee drinks with milk eg iced lattes you see in convenience shops from Costa and the likes.
I think the particular stench of stale milk in unwashed bottles might be a bit of it too
Not like beer empties smell of roses though!
The Scheme doesnt apply to glass bottles .... so if it in a glass bottle it should be ok .... :-)
I wonder if we'll start seeing more and more beers being sold in single use glass bottles instead of cans, and if so it'll probably negate a lot of the environmental benefits of the scheme.
I wonder if the percentage figure of glass bottles being recycled is heavily skewed by bar and restaurant use? I find it hard to believe that customers are choosing to bring bottles to a bottle bank at a higher rate than they're throwing cans in the green bin?
Glass is heavy and can push your pay by weight bins up pretty rapidly. That coupled with how very rare glass bins are for domestic customers gives a reasonable return rate.
I would expect that if the glass recycling % falls, it'll come in to scope like Germany. They have different deposits there depending on whether the brewery / bottler will get the bottle back or goes for recycling
Teenagers and street drinkers generally don't buy glass bottles but they're the top litterers.
Steel food cans are already very widely recycled, you don't buy a casual tin of Heinz when you're in the city centre for some refreshing baked beans and then toss it in a normal bin or in the street. The environmental benefit of recycling these cans is low, aluminium is very energy-intensive to produce.
Soft drink cans are aluminium and are included, of course they are.
I've never seen a container of any of the above fecked into my hedge.
The Polish fridge is all cans.
There’s been decent discounts in Lidl recently on canned beer. I’ve picked up a bit. Wonder will non Irish craft beer become more scarce/expensive?
As an aside as a mostly home drinker I’ve stocked up on double brewery orders to save me with engaging meaningfully with this scheme for a few months.
No, but bring on the scheme for feckin coffee cups!
I like your thinking.
Apologies if this has already been discussed but i'm curious - do the requirements for the deposit return scheme mean that any imported drinks (e.g. cans I might personally import online from France or elsewhere) need to comply with the DRS too? Would Customs deem such items as non-compliant and destroy them? I would hope not..
Customs used to destroy all drinks; I could see them return to that. Its only the last few years that they ever allowed people to pay the duty.
https://m.independent.ie/business/were-back-and-were-enthusiastic-irish-distillers-sell-craft-beer-business-eight-degrees-brewing-back-to-its-founders/a648846555.html?s=09
