Likely she did that herself. Presume it's a co, so shields her personally.
I do wonder if there's more than meets the eye with the Nash 19 closure. While her statement blames rising costs it also mentions the appointment of liquidators almost in passing - who called them in and why?
I run my own business, I’d gladly accept a VAT reduction, temporary or otherwise.
I`d take the CPI with a pinch of salt and an expectation of indigestion. Bon appetit.
Proof is in the pudding. The restaurants are closing.
"bespoke support package"
That should be dealt with on a case by case basis not more blanket hand outs. If it's a solid business and is experiencing cash flow problems or other mitigating circumstances it merits assistance.
As regards the VAT rate, that is a reduction for the consumer, there is no sure way to know the reduction is passed on so it should be a non starter.
@rob316 Seems the RAI and Adrian Cummings are out of the blocks already with a special 5 point plan for this perceived special sector ..
Im sure many other SMEs would like to be able to reduce VAT to 9% ( I would say most SMEs have to charge the 23% ) and have a phased pay off of warehoused VAT over 10 years
You can call in, phone them or use their app (G-Thai).
The app and the bizarre wording and disclaimers therein don't do the place justice, in my view. The app works fine though, once you know what you want it’s very easy to use and pay and clearly tells you when you can pick up the order
The food is good, service is a bit overbearing at times when sitting in (think Artie Bucco from The Sopranos).
Their fried curry paste dishes are absolutely superb.
Takeaway for two adults & 2 kids is about €60 which is good value (usually 2x mains, 2x rice, 2x starters, 2x kids portions, 1x prawn crackers).
Blaming the increase in the VAT rate isn't valid though, it's such a small difference it shouldn't be the difference between closing your doors and trading.As an operator your problems lie elsewhere
Cash flow is the biggest issue for nearly any business now, I know all too well. An industry like hospitality that uses alot of minimum wage workers will definitely be feeling the pinch with the latest rise, approx €1.70 per hour including PRSI and entitlements.
How much more can you pass onto the customer before they say enough and no one is spending money?
Bottom line though anyone who isn't a good operator or has a good strong business isn't going to survive the current climate. Nash 19 a surprise but I'm not that surprised by White Rabbit and Tung Sing.
Love these armchair experts that show up telling everyone else their business is badly run. What's your business's name so we can use your model as a template? You should run a seminar or something.
my point is, they might be closing due to badly run businesses or just not being good enough. They might be using the high rates as an excuse and want more help from the Government (tax payer) because they are accustomed to it by now. It's too simplistic to just cite high rates etc as the reason for closure.
The Soho replacement, 77. Has anyone been in and had food?
Seems like the same crowd who run dwyers maybe?
Well, if restraunts are actually closing, it shows it's not just empty moaning.
restaurant owners have out-moaned publicans lately. They benefited on the lower VAT rate for a long time and suddenly after Christmas they start the whinging again. All types of businesses are suffering due to increased costs etc. I feel some restaurants were price gouging too, not all but some.
Yeah, inflation is the consumer price index. Business is a different thing I suppose, but I'm not sure how that is measured.
The Examiner on Saturday frontpage headlines were about all the restaurant closures. The restaurant owners were saying it was because their costs had gone up so much, so probably higher than the official inflation numbers.
Thanks! I much prefer the sit down experience...
I have never ordered a takeaway to my home, but living in the city centre, I don't have to.
would highly rate golden elephant…my go to but ya their delivery changed there a few months ago and it’s just Douglas area thereabouts only now.
it’s a lovely restaurant to go to instead of takeaway and the service is great
I didn't post a negative, more an observation of getting an incorrect order. I noted the food and price was still good value. And no, I didn't say it to them, because the combo meal comes on one platter. (3 mains, rice etc on one plate). If I was to complain, the other two dishes would've been wasted also. Obviously, ordinarily, I would've sent an incorrect meal back, but it made little sense to waste 3 mains.
It’s grand but overrated. The last time we got a takeaway from there I felt it was just average.
Thanks!
From what I can make out from their bizarre website, they don't seem to deliver to city centre? Would probably prefer to visit it anyway. I hope the sit in prices are reasonable.
Khor is a new one to me, must look into it. Thanks! 👍️
Got it for takeaway recently, waiting almost an hour for a collection for food that to be honest was similar to the royal palace by the Lough, which itself is a lovely Chinese but waits are usually 10-20 mins max for collection (ignoring their long delivery times usually).
I do also rate Khor in grange fairly highly. Think their food is fresh enough and flavours are brilliant imo.
I must get out of the city centre for food more... is the Golden Elephant worth a visit?
I love Thai food, but nothing available in the city centre :/
Has anyone tried Khyber Grill yet?
I haven't visited, but hope to do so soon.
Did you say it to them or just eat it?
Mistakes happen and every restaurant I've ever eaten in immediately attempt to correct it.
Now if you said it and got nowhere then, yeah, post a negative, but if you've not given them a chance...
Went to cafe Mexicana the other night. Had the meal combo for 2 for €38. Delicious to a point, server got the incorrect order for one of the combos which was disappointing as it was the one I was most looking forward to (potato and bacon filling and got spinach instead). Decent meal, decent price.
I'd never eaten in White Rabbit, at the same time I don't like to see places close as it puts their staff in difficult positions.
Ate in Nash 19 a couple of times (years ago), in hindsight, it reminds me of Perry Street (or vice-versa) i.e. €15 for a slice of quiche with salad. Unfortunate feedback here about the owner too.
Having a bunch of restaurants close in succession happened a few years back too, maybe 2009-ish? The volume of restaurants in Cork was thinned out and thereafter a few new ones opened and became popular (plenty didn't last too obviously). Off the top of my head: Annies Gastropub, Hardwood, Clancys, Zanzibaar, The Ambassador etc. closed up.
I had the feeling that (competent) staff were hard to get after Covid19; now that places seem to be closing down, are we going to see better service or will newly unemployed staff go do something else?
I've no doubt that running a restaurant is challenging, but I feel that many places really took liberties following Covid19 regards booking, pricing, service etc. Good service isn't a luxury like booking the emergency exit seat on a plane.
In my opinion there are few restaurants in Cork city with truly good service (Son of a Bun, Golden Elephant (Douglas), Jacobs on the Mall, Elbow Lane) and plenty with mediocre service e.g. Goldie where as soon as the main courses were served the service fell off a cliff, similarly Ichigo Ichie where the excellent service falls off a cliff toward the end of the meal and your left to figure out yourself that it's time to leave.
is The Sultan still open ?
If some of my favourite places start to close im gonna be so sad.
Im torn between wanted to save money/not eat out and wanting to throw all my money at them so they stay open!
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