I thought hanging up holly was common enough over there.
Why would anyone put up a picture of something that's not licensed for use here. Crazy stuff
350 plus the vat and the rest
Cows 12.50/head salmonella /ibr /lepto
calves 16.50 bovipast/blackleg
Probably a lot different in Ireland, but if a medicine/chemical is found on site with the label in a ‘foreign’ language, there’s an immediate fine of €25k.
If that’s not how it’s in Ireland, it will change. EU in charge now.
Whats your overall spend on vaccines?
Per head or per 100 head please.
Then again I self insure all claims up to €5k…because it’s cost effective. Rolling averages are very helpful when making decisions on annual spend.
Absolutely 💯
Considering they are carrying at my guess around 350 head of stock it's on114 per head 🤔 🙄 minerals would cover large portion of that
Yeah polish vaccine I think- used it first last year as I always had a problem in spring born calves- calves were 15kg heavier going to the shed this year
Like insurance here ….I’ve dropped bvd no issue ….won’t drop lepto as don’t want to get it myself …ibr and salmonella also as I’ve had issues previously ….calves get bovipast for pneumonia and blackleg
There’s a vaccine for ringworm?
Sunlight is my cure.
Does the vaccine work on horses?
I do
lepto
bvd
rota
salmonella
ibr
and ringworm
Minerals are a basic dietary requirement, but vaccines are an individuals choice.
Maybe Teagasc would do a trial on a herd using no vaccines…like they do with using liquid urea, humates, etc. 😀
Why wouldn’t you …..you skimp on minerals …vaccines herd health etc it’ll bite you in the ass on the double and at a time when you don’t want it to ….whatever tge make up of genetics
LOL, Let's have the chat again.
If you had those handy, middling high ebi cows (or maybe goats you would call them) you would not need a quarter of that stuff
Yeah everything I buy off the vet or veterinary related like minerals boluses etc could add up to 40k a year
A bottle of kefir each might be better value or let it multiply itself in whole milk like yoghurt.
Kefir bacteria will colonise gut, yoghurt bacteria only give a positive effect while passing through.
That's the way accountants calculate it AFAIK
Liver fluke likely to be a bigger issue this year due to high rainfall. I had similar issue last year - cattle killed in factory showing fluke present & liver damage. Was noticeable in cattle as they were hard to finish & low fat scores. Had been treated with a product that kills all stages of fluke around Christmas. Presence of live fluke is. Interning as it indicates that drug mightn’t have worked. Info from slaughter vital. I faecal sampled cattle in Nov - no fluke showing up, dosed recently & will sample again before turn out.
As I said the only one we replaced recently was the rotovirus as that is the only thing we had vaccinated the cows for the last few years. We have not vaccinated for anything else for @ least 15 years. We still do the calves with Bovipast and Tribivac and also do them for coccidioses
Yes that's the one from Tommy the Vet. AFAIK it is the only commercial one available in Ireland. As I said in my previous post we don't use that we have our own imported stuff. We would not be licensed to sell what we are using. All the information on microbes is available on line for anyone willing to put the time and effort into doing the research.
In fairness, some people put in all their breeding costs and a few other things into the vet costs..
Do you make it up in a batch like yogurt milk or throw a drop in to the milk. Is there a website that you recommend?
I don't have a clue about microbe's, but you get very vague when asked about it. Is it something like that one below
A farmer’s first thoughts must always be to manage risk. But managing risk comes with a price or trade off. I tend to use 5-10yr rolling averages to base figures on. With the cost of vaccinating every possible risk being substantial, I would question the economics of blanket vaccination…and I’ve a flying herd with imports from 3 different countries.
Vets here advise against vaccinating for anything unless it’s a blatant requisite.
What vaccinations and doses have you replaced by going in with microbes on the cows then too?
Well I suppose for most lads Tommy the Vet stuff would be the option. Don't know what that costs. Didn't calculate the cost for our stuff as the calves would be getting only a small portion of what we use altogether. But I would guess no more than a couple of Euros each.
The idea with the microbes is to flood the calves system with good bacteria so there is no room for the bad stuff.
Was talking to A Lad milking 120 cows and he said his vets bill was near 20k I asked how and he listed all the vaccinations they were getting. Think there comes to a point where I don't think It makes Financial sense.
What’s it working out per calf and what rates do you feed it at?
Well it worked for me anyway. Not Tommy the vets stuff but our own. We had desperate trouble with rotovirus for a few years. Started vaccinating the cows 10 Euros a shot but still no good as we weren't feeding whole milk, only getting two feed of beestings and then onto milk powder. Knew a bit about the microbes as we had been using in our foliar spray program.
Is that microbes as good as all the testimony’s tommythevet is putting up? All young fellas in his ads giving the interviews all saying it’s the bees knees.
