I disagree the same talent is not coming through for Dublin, 2 All Ireland's out of every 10 at most. Interest didn't decline in Munster and the rest of Ireland with Kerry winning 82 Munster's and 38 All Irelands ! Croke Park is in Dublin , all semi and all Ireland finals are played in Croke Park which is were all the players in all the Counties want to play ! Population advantage has been talked about by yourself for 13 years, Cork Galway Down Armagh etc have huge population advantage over Leitrim Longford Carlow etc amazingly you refuse to see this ! this justifies splits to these Counties and others ! When you think about it your sad and ridiculous 13 year campaign to get Dublin split is disgraceful !
I think we can make a fairly accurate guess as to how it'll go- Dublin will continue to dominate, winning maybe 8+ out of every 10 All-Irelands initially and then winning 9 or 10 out 10 as interest declines in other counties. Because people recognise that the structures are set up by the GAA for Dublin alone to win more or less indefinitely now as their population, funding and home pitch unfair advantages are concentrated into a single team. It's happened in Leinster and will just extend to the rest of the country.
One surprising thing is why they weren't even more successful to begin with given they always had the population advantage, which was grounds for a justified two-way split even when they were winning less. I mean they were highly successful but it reflects very badly on Dublin that they weren't even more dominant. But then the GAA had to organise a bailout programme while simultaneously allowing other massive funding for Dublin alone from their Sponsors and the Irish government. The level of special treatment they have received and continue to receive is really disgraceful when you think about it.
Well Dublin have dominated the AI too but who knows where that'll go. Too late now though look at the positives. We save a lot of time and money throughout the year!
Don't forget Cork Kerry Galway Mayo etc have unfair advantages over Leitrim Longford Carlow etc that seem to be not even recognised
What about the people in Munster who never get to enjoy a Munster championship as it never was competitive ?
But its only Dublin you whinge about , and rant on here for 13 years , its obvious all you want is to weaken Dublin to help your own County
Your fooling no one !
Yes, I do feel bad for younger people who never got to enjoy a Leinster championship that was in any way competitive because of what the GAA has allowed to happen. I imagine we'll be saying the same about the All-Ireland in 10 years as the unfair advantages Dublin enjoy seem to not even be recognised, never mind having steps taken to address them.
No if Dublin is split , Cork Kerry Galway Mayo etc would have to be split also , it's the only way Leitrim Longford Carlow etc can compete with these Counties.
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@dunnerc Kindly stop asking what county a poster is from. They don't have to answer and the sheer repetitiveness of asking is tiresome at this stage.
Exactly who cares. Plenty of other sporting competitions worth supporting. I'm genuinely glad I got to enjoy a Leinster championship growing up because the newer generations were denied that by the powers that be.
Ah keep the faith , your County might come good some day , Who is your County ?
But it's not either/or- a team can play in the All-Ireland and if they lose at a certain point, get redirected to the Tailteann Cup. I agree with scrapping the provinces and having a second-tier competition though. Combine them with a mandatory split of Dublin, voluntary amalgamations of other counties and better redistribution of financial resources and we would be some way towards improving the All-Ireland competition. All reforms that don't include a split of Dublin will just be window dressing though.
Fair enough, it's hard not to keep the faith given what the GAA have done to the once-great competition. It maybe is too late to salvage things even if the right steps were taken, which there is currently no appetite within the GAA to do. No point wasting decades for things to improve when they probably won't.
At least 50% of counties cant compete with Kerry at all, its pointless putting the likes of Waterford or Meath up against them. Scrap the provinces, two tier championship based on league positions.
Nah couldn't give a shite. It's a god send all the extra free time I have at the weekends not going to matches these days. Used to go to all the Meath matches and a lot of neutral games but not for years.
Honestly **** them, gave a ridiculous amount of money, home advantage and publicly stated they needed Dublin to win just incase referees needed to know who to favour if they wanted to progress their careers. All to the most successful Leinster side will all the natural advantages so not like they needed to.
It's turned me into a hurling fan instead and made me realise it's a better sport anyway.
You don't care about the organisation , all you care about is getting Dublin split to help your own County which you refuse to reveal !
Once again WHAT COUNTY ARE YOU FROM ?
Agreed the All Ireland is not a fair competition currently because of Corks Derry Antrims population along with Kerry Galway Mayo etc funding compared to Leitrim Carlow Longford etc
Croke park is in Dublin , all Semi finals and finals are played there !!
AGAIN WHAT COUNTY ARE YOU FROM ?
A 2nd tier championship already exists in the form of the Tailteann Cup. Not arguing against having it but teams should still have the opportunity to compete in the All-Ireland. The main issue is just that the All-Ireland is not a fair competition currently because of Dublin's population, funding and home pitch advantages, among other things.
It's tempting to think that way but we all care about the organisation so I'd much rather that the mistakes that have been made are rectified asap rather than inter-county sliding into irrelevance.
Nope would love to see an open draw , cant see it happening any time soon though unfortunately.
But are you not loving Leinster winning it every year? As a die hard dub I'm shocked you don't want to try win 20 in a row. Only 6 more years.
Part of me kinda hopes it stays status quo because the GAA deserve to suffer for what they done. Bunch of donkeys.
Better to just scrap the provincial championships altogether and allow the weaker counties like Meath and Leitrim to play in a 2nd tier championship.
Have we managed to agree to split Limerick for hurling yet?
Looking forward to seeing Dublin North-West meeting Dublin South in the All-Ireland final having defeated Meath/Westmeath and Cavan/Monaghan in the semi-finals, in the year Kerry North defeated Dublin North-East in the league final.
in my view due to population and over funding Cork Galway Kerry etc over Leitrim Longford Carlow etc would have to be split to really help the GAA
WHAT COUNTY ARE YOU FROM ?
Definitely voluntary amalgamations should be offered along with a mandatory split of Dublin.
Only a two-way split of Dublin was merited originally in my view, on population grounds. It's the decades of overfunding that now mean a larger split is necessary to really help the GAA.
I would be open to any suggestions around improvements in the GAA but splitting Dublin hurling team into 4/5 teams is just ridiculous. Maybe merging weaker counties like Meath & Westmeath might be a better solution.
And thats your opinion fair enough , for me though an open draw is the way to go .
But you can do that and keep the provincials. The only time a team other then Dublin would have a chance of winning would be if they held it earlier in the season before Dublin would take it seriously.
The issue here is Leinster without Dublin would be a much bigger spectacle then any other alternative. Louth brought a huge crowd to the final last year. If that was Louth Vs Kildare there would have been 60k at it. Without Dublin Leinster championship matches could grow as spectacles again. An open draw won't have the same effect because Sam Maguire isn't a realistic target for most Leinster counties and never will be.
The most important thing is that the unfair advantages Kerry Cork Galway Mayo have over Leitrim Longford Carlow etc are recognised and dealt with . What County are you from ?
We do have any idea as to how it would work in practice; the currently Dublin inter-county team would be split into multiple divisional sides which would then compete in the All-Ireland instead. Just the particulars of which club would fall into which team haven't been ironed out yet (and would of course be dependent on the number of divisional sides it is deemed best for the GAA for Dublin to be split into, a 4-way split would be different to a 5-way split for instance). The split probably would include hurling (as before, just because they don't win every year doesn't mean they aren't unfairly advantaged) but perhaps could be a smaller split as I'm unsure how much of the funding was routed their way. No need for new county grounds. Separate club championships could be considered but we could probably yield to the desire of locals clubs in Dublin on that one- it would be of critical importance that any potential split would be as beneficial as possible to the GAA within Dublin.
So as I said, these are just minor details. The most important thing is that the unfair advantages are recognised and dealt with.
This clearly wont happen , your 13 year campaign of nonsense has failed lol....
What County are you from ?
You over focus on the split 13 years of it 🙄the splits are only necessary because of the unfair advantages Kerry Cork Galway Mayo enjoy over Leitrim Longford Carlow etc , the funding from the GAA and there sponsors vastly outstrips these Counties ,Finals and Semi finals are played in Croke Park which is in Dublin , what's strange is a weird poster on here who refuses to say what County he is from just cant seem to accept that the Cork Kerry Galway Mayo issues are in fact advantages which is bizarre , they beat these Counties 99% of the time so they are unfairly advantaged
So we need to accept the truth that Cork Kerry Galway Mayo etc are unfairly advantaged over Leitrim Longford Carlow etc and then discuss how we deal with it, if Cork Kerry Galway Mayo etc weren't unfairly advantaged nobody including me would want them split! But this is clearly not the case .
And once again What County are you from ?
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