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can I run my car on Kerosene?

martco

been using a new station recent times for the fill, bit down the road in Ashford but best prices around (by a large margin)

shiny new station, pumps have petrol and diesel as you'd expect (incl. one labelled with a Truck that seems to turbo the stuff in lol) but also an Adblue and a KEROSENE gun

got me thinking....could I run my car off it? I'm presuming it's Kero aka Home Heating oil? kinda confused it's on the forecourt tbh

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artanevilla

Technically your diesel engine will run on kerosene, but it is a bad bad idea and will probably end up costing way more in damage than in savings. It doesn't have the same lubricating properties of diesel so will damage the components in the fuel system that rely on these properties to function properly.

hoodie6029

Lash it in. What’s the worst that could happen? Keep us updated.

BENDYBINN

It will go way faster on the kerosene…

Padre_Pio

What's the ratio of diesel to cooking oil?

I remember doing it maybe 10 years ago, it was all the rage to head up north with a van full of 50L cans. this was with a mid 2000's berlingo.

Aldi did a deal on cooking oil and there was auld lads filling trolleys with the stuff.

MrMusician18

You could, but over time it would wreck your engine as it has a lower lubricity than diesel.

The reason it is on the forecourt is for heating applications. People that cannot afford a full delivery or people that do not need one might fill drums at the pump.

Interesting side story: Kerosene is the same as jet fuel. Few years ago some Lads at Dublin Airport were taking the tank drainings from the aircraft home (planes that went in for repair) rather than disposing of it correctly - until someone blew the whistle.

[Deleted User]

As above you can but you definitely shouldn’t. Handy if you need a quick oil tank top up though.

i also think it’s illegal to use it in your car similarly to green diesel.

Donald Trump

Make sure your engine is diesel to begin with...........

ELM327

It's illegal to use in your car.

The older the car the more likely it is to run well. If you're running neat kero (ie without some diesel, green diesel, 2 stroke etc) then it will likely ruin a lot of your fuel system (eg fuel pump) due to lesser lubricity.

I did it for years, mixing kero with waste engine oil. I remember paying 37c per liter! Old Carinas, 406, anything with a straight diesel and ideally indirect injection is perfect. OM606 comes to mind. I certainly wouldnt put anything common rail or more modern than the early 2000's through it though. They arent built for it.

Padre_Pio

Is it kerosene or gas oil?

Gas oil is diesel and should run no bother.

Both are illegal, though I've never heard of revenue dipping cars in the last few years.

martco

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605433#Comment_121605433

lol love little stories like that heheh

artanevilla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605433#Comment_121605433

This may or may not still happen...

martco

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605489#Comment_121605489

100% its Kero labelled on pump, yellow pump gun

I'm passing the gaff later today, I'll bring a small drum and grab a litre of it to bring home to have a look

just I've never seen it on a forecourt before so was interesting to me

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605743#Comment_121605743

it’s just home heating oil then.

Regardless do not fill your car with it! 🤣

a local petrol station to me has green diesel (or as they say Agri diesel) for sale at pumps as well, but the staff have to switch them on to use.

regularly enough there’s an argument amongst shop staff and (sorry) travellers about it. Staff aren’t allowed let the pump run unless it’s being used to fill a drum or approved container, of course they want to fill the car.

They always get their way in the end, I suppose no one’s paid enough working in a petrol station to give that much of a shite 🤣

martco

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605464#Comment_121605464

excellent

lovely hearing OM606 being mentioned, I remember those being highly prized, great lumps altogether

bladespin

What's the make model and year of the car? Legailities aside pretty much any modern dieles will not tolerate Kero for long.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605747#Comment_121605747

The trick is to find a local-ish station that has been done multiple times for selling washed diesel. I used to be able to put the green nozzle directly into the car! When I was feeling flush I would alternate between green and kero+waste oil

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058330926/can-i-run-my-car-on-kerosene

With the price of oil people don't buy a full tank and fill up drums. This is why you can see it on forecourt and has become more common in last year years after dying out for a while.

In terms of filling up if you talk to an oil boiler expert they will recommend against doing it this way as far more dirt gets dragged into the boiler and you will have more problems but not everyone can afford 1k to buy a tank of oil

hoodie6029

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605747#Comment_121605747

keep the head down as the Landcruiser is filled with green and send the kid in to pay in cash at my local station.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605836#Comment_121605836

I say you’re more at risk of some nosey fecker at the adjacent pump reporting you than the shop staff as well 🤣

elperello

Holy smoke when did Boards.ie become Banditos.ie ?🙂

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605909#Comment_121605909

I did it for 5+ years before moving to an EV. 50-60k a year, buying hundreds of gallons a month. No one ever reported me.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605923#Comment_121605923

You should have come to a motors meet back in the day - it was always banditos.ie!

Danzy

It depends on the age of the car, mechanics used put it in for cleaning out injectors etc that was for diesel cars.

Unless it is an old car it will destroy the engine In a very short time.

Best bet as mentioned above is to horse it in and see what happens after a few weeks, failing that ask a friendly mechanic if it is an option for your car.

Clareman

Friend of mine has a company van and fuel card, he has a jerry can in the back of the van and when he's filling up the van he fills the jerry can as well and throws it in the oil tank, he's being doing it for years and last time he got the boiler serviced he was told how efficent the boiler was going 😂

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121606002#Comment_121606002

He just puts regular diesel in the oil tank?

Smart though 🤣

hoodie6029

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605980#Comment_121605980

After being banned constantly, the worst offenders went off to backroads.ie and octane where they had free rein.

Who knows where they all are now? Serving time, probably 😂

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605433#Comment_121605433

AFAIK this is only partly true. it'd be like saying what comes out of your kitchen tap and what you'd find in the local river are the same, but you'd be safer drinking one than the other.

aviation fuel is much more refined than heating oil. the saturn V rocket from the apollo missions also burned kerosene, but again, much more refined.

Miscreant

Isn't Dipetane basically just kerosene? I would imagine that in small quantities it would be OK but whole tank fulls of it? I would not take the risk with a modern diesel and blow it up but each to their own... save a few quid here and there and once the weird noises in the engine start happening, sell the car to some unsuspecting punter!

martco

just in the door there, I took a litre off that pump earlier and put a drop in a clear jar, it's actually red in colour, thought it was supposed to be clear so there's a dye in it presumably

swilling it in the jar it doesn't seem as sticky as diesel if that makes any sense, not much of a smell off it either

I have a little oil lamp, gonna see how it goes later for interests sake like

hoodie6029

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121607584#Comment_121607584

Much of a buzz off it? How does it taste?

martco

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121607597#Comment_121607597

lol dunno but prob safer than some of the alcopop muck out there