Definitely not losing their is still a big difference between irish vs UK price and look at what they are paying at marts for Angus freely 3 euro per kilo which is a long way ahead of factory price you can be sure they are making very good profit on the mart purchased angus
They only need to get over the next 2-3 weeks and the cattle will start flowing out of sheds as they hit 90+ days feeding, there efficiency will fall and lad will have to start selling.
I doubt that very much.
Right now they're losing!
Heard that before. But as always the factory's will win.
Heard big money on offer this week for the right stock..can't say anymore for now. Just everyone fight hard the ball is very much in your favour.
Will u grade cows hit €5.00 next week
Cull beef cows were absolutely flying in Delvin yesterday. You would be mad to kill a cow yourself at the moment
He have made much the same in the factory. Off mart weight he would probably kill 56% or 417kgs @ 5.4/kg, 4.15 base, 20c QA and 6c for being an R+.
A month ago base price was 4.9 and he was probably 30kgs carcasses weight lighter as well as being an R=.
Inthe last few weeks it seems processors are grading either
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I'll find out what he weighted the first day.
That's it. He was unhappy with the price n brought him back home
Cattle always seem to be less the further south you go and beef price has increased in the intervening time. However €1750 a month ago was hardly much good for him even then imo? He'd still have been the bones of 700kg mart weight or maybe I'm wrong. The same bullock about here could make nearer €2500 atm which doesn't seem to add up with the current beef quote but it's still happening. There was a quare smile on the seller exiting the box on Monday I'd imagine.
I've cows milking oad, there in good nick but not ready for factory. What weight would they put on a day, on 6kgs of beet and 5 of meal
I don't understand your message. Animal was no sale in Skibb and he was sold in Bandon on Monday (by the same owner). Is that correct?
This fella was "no saled" in skibb fat stock a month ago for €1750. Same man bought him again in bandon Monday.
Any farmer that pays his rte television licence should get his hole kicked off him around the yard.
I was watching that "operation transformation" and listened to some young one tell the fat fella that he should not eat any red meat as it was linked with cancer. I could not believe it.
I had hardly seen the program since that drug addict Gerry Ryan was weighing in the poor fuuuckers with their tight belly tops long go. Please GOD send us someone who will speak up for the likes of the farmer that spends his life caring for his animals and land.
RTE should be left die, than to be peddling their biased shitttt every night to the public.
That price was good he would not have ended up with anything near 5.50 if on the grid, the factory is always in total control with the grid and its all about bringing your final paid price down as low as possible, lots of lads are suspicious about when their cattle go flat the grades often seem quite good but when on the grid the grades don't seem as good ??
5.50 flat for HEX Heifers. Coming up on 24 months. Could have been on meal since mid Oct. Heifers are a devil for going over fat. I don't bother with them myself as they don not suit my system.
We're these underage Angus or Herefords because they were nearly all 4 fat and were they heifers as the results look better than just middling cattle also carcase avg under 300kg would indicate heifers also was he on a flat price or on the grid
Was chatting him last night. Sent 15 to factory in midlands. 1 R-, 9 O+ and 5 O=. All bar 2 were fat score 4. I presume the 2 outliers were 3. I didn't ask him that. Averaged 285kg. So, before deductions, I make that €1,567.50. Not bad for middling cattle.
Anyway, back to pricing. If we take it he got 10 cent HE bonus. And 20 cent Bord Bia, that leaves 5.20. If he was to get 5.20 based on grid pricing, that's 5.32 base price for the O+. Aren't I correct with this? Now, bare in mind, this man sends over 200 cattle a year to factory. Mostly over the summer off grass alone.
He is thinking about batching the worst of his 2022 born bullocks together for a load, and feeding them meal to finish in April. He thinks he will do better getting rid of some of these before the price starts dropping over the summer. An interesting take on things. I think most people would concentrate on feeding the better cattle from the shed.
It's unbelievable the way kill sheets can be altered to report a price. The best is when flat pricing. The base is driven down to the lowest offering that week. And bonuses to bring it back up. Helps drive the base down for reporting purposes.
Some times only 15c. The more of this that is shared here the better. Levels the playing field
What Angus bonus is currently paid in other parts of the country.is abp still only 20 cent ?
Old lad always said If The cod is full the bullock is fat.
i look at tail head and cod.
No idea what that is. It also says 0c for the sustainability bonus which is what I thought I was signing up to get.
Yeah, there’s no sense or meaning to it. They pay what they like and use bonuses, deductions, breed, and god knows what else to make the maths work for them.
For the factories around the midlands you don’t need to be a member of any of the schemes to get the bonus. Depending on demand you’d get 10-20cent on whiteheads and 20-30 cent on Angus without being in any scheme.
What is the weight Var. I see it was worth 20 cent/kg to you.
Thanks for that - it's my first time sending cattle to ABP.
It was 20c bonus - breakdown below
Angus
LM
There is a once off fee for membership of the AA producer group. Its 100 euro. They have take 50% as you only had two animals they will collect the rest down the line. Hereford prime have the same fee.
The 6 euro charge per head is recurring. As a matter of interest what was the bonus paid 15 0r 20 c/kg
What's the story with ABP deducting money for 'Aberdeen Angus' and 'AA Prod Grp'? See the image below. They took €31 per animal for these.
If it makes any difference, the two AA bullocks I sent graded as O= 3- and O+ 2+. The LM bullock I sent was O+ 2+ and there was no AA related deductions for him.
I signed up for their Advantage scheme before Christmas but there was no mention of extra deductions then.
I haven't rang ABP yet as I wanted to see if anyone on here could shed any light on it first.
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