https://www.businesspost.ie/news/uk-fund-snaps-up-85-of-dublin-17-housing-estate-originally-aimed-at-individual-buyers/
I though they banned this from happening?!
It's probably more likely that there was some kind of serious inaccuracy with the article that left the original outlet (and others that used it as a source) liable to legal action.
Not the lizard people looking to 'plant' us, oh no.
What is it that makes you feel so inadequate about the fact you rent?
I get that you would very much prefer to own your home, but no one thinks of people who rent as lesser human beings.
My sister said it was dead money and that she will always regard renting as dead money. When cousins bought a house everyone went with gifts and talked about it. Most didn't even know I rent because it wasn't a big thing for my sisters to share in the way buying a house would be. Im also terrified about being homeless in old age when I cant pay the rent on the state pension
I also went to UCD and was one of the first on either side of my family to go to college which means I have much greater shoes to fill in what my life should be like, had I left school at 15 living at home wouldnt matter as Id have expected to be a loser, but being a loser after attending UCD means Im look down on more for it
That is a family issue, not a societal one.
Sounds like you need to have a serious talk with your relatives rather than project your feelings of inadequacy onto a discussion about renting/ownership.
People make posts here looking down on renters too, saying that people need to move away from Dublin etc
Maybe we should be working to change that culture to fix the crisis, like the taoiseach having a address to the nation saying due to our global economy home ownership has changed and people who rent are not failures or dead money like their families think they are
That is different, advice to move to where you can afford to live is not a comment on their standing in society and stigmatisation.
Yes it is, it means Im not good enough for the city I come from and am as such a failure, like I was planning on buying in Navan or Drogheda where I could manage it, but my sister told me not to be everyone hates living out there that does it and why could I even manage somewhere like tallaght? And that "plently of people who didnt go to college can buy houses in Dublin" so I gave up on a commuter town as I realised it wouldnt be good enough and Id be a failure living out there, Id go from dead money to living in an unacceptable place
Re not wanting to live in an apartment.
If I was born and raised in a house and my grandparents lived in houses id see an apartment as a downgrade. Fine for when your young and single not really suitable for having a family in my opinion. Its a downgrade, and a generational one at that - that's the way I see it anyway.
That is not how society views renters, most of us, or family members have rented at some stage of our lives.
No one in my family ever rented, except overseas or back in the 50s before my grandparent got their council house, my mum spent her first few years in a rental tenement.
The norm (Im the youngest by 12 years) for my family was buying in their early to mid 20s or getting a council house at that age
Its a family one up and down the country though. Renting is viewed as a stop gap in my experience.
A college graduate should be able to rent and save for a mortgage - but they are not - this is why we have a savage percentage of 20-30 year olds living in their parents houses - they are trying to save for a mortgage because rent really is dead money for the renter long term.
see this person just shamed me as a stop gap and as dead money.
Renters are hated in Ireland as lesser
Ah I didn't shame you - I'm a renter myself.
Though I am finally sorting a mortgaged home after 6 years of planning and saving.
Maybe you should have a word with your family or just yourself. Every thread you're on is the same, everyone looks down on renters, my family think I'm a loser etc etc.
This is all in your head.
I have had a word, I begged my sister to say renting is not dead money and she wont.
After I begged family members to speak to her she told my grandmother I was spoiled. Another time she simply refused to even engage in her comments about housing and just said I was mentally unwell
So what, who cares what she thinks? Do you honestly do everything your sister tells you to do?
Who cares, live your life.
I care because she thinks Im a failure for renting and family is all I have or had, we dont speak anymore. Im too ugly for a relationship so I really need the family
Don’t feed the troll.
I'm going to be really honest here, you're issues are not about renting. I really think you would Benefit from some counselling sessions, I hope you don't think I'm being mean here, I genuinely think you could do with some helpful advise. Please look into it, for your own benefit.
I just want to be view as a success and not as dead money. I just want my sister to say "the comments I made first in September 2017 and then in October 2022 about renting being a lot of dead money was wrong and I apologies, I don't regard you renting as dead money and I take back saying that college is over rated and I am proud that you went to UCD"
Counselling will help. I honestly promise.
Look at it as an investment in yourself and your Future.
I tried it, and SSRIs. The counsellor told me to sit down with my sister show what I can get in a mortgage with lending rules and then show the cost of housing in Dublin with the idea being if she realised renting is the only way I can live independent and not a choice of mine she would no longer see it as dead money out of a lack of other options. She refused and instead told me "plenty of people who didn't go to college buy houses"
Renters are scum! :pac
I hear a lot of people mentioning that it's okay to rent, and this nearly always comes from people who already own their own homes or rent them out. If people have a choice, obviously to buy is the better option and even the mortgage payments can be lower than rent payments. Imagine paying this 3000 a month to rent an apartment!!
Ireland used to be mostly to some extent still is mostly own homeownership, and it's how your everyday person was able to create some wealth for their families, but now it seems that the government and this isn't just limited to the Irish government, but they want housing to become a subscription model, basically turning us into a nation of renters.
If you have two options, Buy/Rent, buying is the better option as at the end you've an asset that is yours. Renting is good if you don't plan to stick to a place or a country but within reason! It has to be affordable for the everyday worker, and that includes people working in low waged jobs.
No point to build apartments that are out of most peoples reach like this €3,000 a month and not only that but while some well paid worker could afford this it also raises rents all over locally, and it's pricing people lower down out of it.
You can't have people in their 30s and 40s sharing a box room with others or living back home, these people are being held back in life and unable to start families of their own, and it's all coming down to greed by people in government who got theirs and are throwing everybody else to wind and selling us out just so they and their family and friends can profit at the expense of the rest of us.
The article is back up, there have been a few changes and corrections, they are explained lower on the page.
Why are we allowing this to happen when we are socially repulsed as a society by renters?
Ireland is possibly the richest country in the world with best govt policy which allots brand new house to ones who just moved country !
How are we giving them houses when they are renting on HAP? Renting is not housing its accommodation. Maybe Ukrainian dont have families calling them dead money or looking down on them for it so it feels different to them then the native Irish who are made into life failures and losers by having to rent
I m not sure how is it different but what is the motivation to work when we have to spend most of it on rent or mortgage when HAP gives u free accommodation !
Close to half or more of income is going in accomodation cost for some one who works while HAP is free !
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