This weekends senior fixtures
Out of interest what way does the Kilkenny championship work. Do they incorporate a league into it ?
Conor Lane should never be let anywhere near a GAA pitch, let alone referee games like this.
You've shown your true colours anyway with dual players comment, the reason most players play both is there clubs wouldn't be able to field teams if they didn't.
If anyone has a spare ticket for the final they won't be using, I would gladly take it off them please.
I dont see what the big deal about playing into January is?
I think it has been a really good club championship in both codes. Lots of games every weekend right up to Christmas. I enjoyed it.
Those weather conditions could easily have occurred in December.
Exactly its just the part of the world we live in, I remember early Sept being at games played in heatwave conditions, 2 weeks later games had to be rescheduled due to waterlogged pitches.
Exactly. We've had snow and storms on St Patrick 's Day in the past.
The final is in Croke Park, so no chance it will sell out
The Glen v Kilmacud match clearly shouldn't have been played yesterday and if the schedule wasn't so crowded they could have rescheduled it.
It still takes way too long for county's to complete their club championships and is proof that irrespective of all the changes the GAA at central level have done to ease fixture congestion the problem is mainly to do with county boards.
Offaly hurlers were out of the championship on June 17th and the Offaly hurling final was played on October 15th
Offaly footballers were out of the championship on June 10th and the senior football final was on September 24th.
It should not take that long for any county to complete their championship, simple as that.
When did the Championship start and when did the club leagues finish?
Clubs leagues finished in around early june.
Again clubs leagues take way to long to finish.They should be weekly fixtures not once every 2 weeks.
Too much nonsense in GAA over having gaps between fixtures, what the hell is wrong with having a one match per week schedule for all competitions.I imagine the players would like it more as it would reduce the training to matches ratio.
Why not?
A county is perfectly entitled to take 4 months to complete their championship in my book once they are ready in time for the provincials.
Tipperary were out at end of June and had their county final at end of October. It was a super club championship, there is very little I would change about it.
Like a round of championship every 2 weeks for 4 months is still only maybe 8 rounds, allowing a few weeks prep. With a round robin stage, this seems grand to me, maybe some divisional games etc.
There are only a handful of clubs still going in January and lucky them.
I saw yesterday there that both respective mangers were not consulted about whether they wanted to play the game. I was shocked at that. As both said it should not have been played.
Marty Morrissey said on the radio that if a referee can see both goals from halfway on a foggy day, then the match can start. Even though it could mean that players at either end could not see the opposite goals. I found this bit online, which says that there is a similar test for Dutch soccer matches.
"I found the guidelines from Dutch FA (dated december 2014) It says (among a lot of other rules) that a referee has to postpone play whenever the fog is so heavy that the referee is unable to see the goals from the centre spot."
It's not their decision. If the referee deems the conditions playable, and one team doesn't want to play, they are free to forfeit.
As has been pointed out on numerous occasions, conditions at pitch level were much different to how it looked on TV. Shite for sure, but playable. 1-14 and 2-10 are some impressive scorelines for teams who supposedly couldn't see the ball or the goals.
What about the practically of TV viewers as well though? One of the biggest club matches in the country that lots of neutrals from around the country would have had an interest in. But the fog actually got worse rather than better! To be honest I don't know how the commentators managed even though at half time they were saying it was not as bad as it looked on TV, out on the pitch.
I got to be honest I resorted to more 'listening' to the commentary rather than 'watching' it in the latter stages because watching it became almost pointless. It was a struggle.
It is a bit of a shame that is two years in a row big games have been overshadowed by controversy. Ironically with the same two teams.
Both managers should have got together in that case and had a discussion. If both refused to play what would the ref do then? He would have to call it off?
What are the rules on it if both refuse to continue/play?
There is no controversy over yesterday's game. None.
I don't know about specific rules but I imagine they would risk exposing themselves and their clubs to suspensions and fines.
By controversy I mean that both managers did not want it played and were surprised the ref went ahead with it. Plus the game became virtually unwatchable on the telly.
The only time I remember similar fog at match was Dublin v Mayo in Westport (League) I think it was a televised game. But it was definitely called off.
There won't be a word about it in a month's time never mind this time next year. Last year's error was according to one particular poster on Boards going to change the game of football fundamentally forever. But it blew over soon enough, and it was only journalists this year who were trying to revive it. The other match in Thurles could also be termed "controversial" because of half the pitch being frosted.
Interestingly the Galway-Offaly game yesterday in Tullamore was abandoned with 15 mins to go, due to the fog.
So the referee can do that if conditions are getting worse.
Now, I'm not sure how the fog differed in Tullamore v Newry or if it differs hurling v football, but still.
I forgot to mention the match in Tipp that looked dangerous as well. It has a real "ah sure it is the GAA for ya" feel about the whole thing. Low expectations and accepting of conditions that other sports would go mad over.
There will be loads of tickets available.
It's not the intercounty all-Ireland final.
For me, it was best to get both games played. Thousands of spectators would have to get refunds. And new dates arranged for three more games. Sometimes human beings have to make decisions which are imperfect, but not as imperfect as the alternatives. Like the soccer game in Brussels:
"Ultimately 39 fans were killed—the majority of whom were Italian—and hundreds of other spectators were injured. Fearing mayhem if the match was canceled, Juventus and Liverpool ended up playing, and Juventus won, 1–0."
Should be handy enough for tickets I assume not many neutrals will be at it. 30k ish attendance would be my guess. I can't remember the football attendance last year (even though they closed one stand due to a concert upcoming) it was still very sparse.
Just to clarify, as I posted a similar request. Many season ticket holders do not use their free ticket entitlement for the senior club finals. Posters, like myself, would gladly use them and be very appreciative. I have a large extended family (grandchildren etc.) and we try to make it a day out each year.
If any team deserves to lose it is Mud Crokes. Trying to buy themselves to success every year.
I doubt a Dublin:Mayo match would be held in Westport. Castlebar, maybe yes.
I didn't find it unwatchable at all. The only parts we couldn't really see were when the ball was in the corners of the pitch which were furthest from the cameras. Other than that, it was easy to follow.
Very exciting match, and some great long-distance scores. Some pass by Shane Walsh for the goal. I thought he was anonymous for most of the game, but he can then do a Clifford, and produce the sublime.
Bit off topic from the match, but the corner back who got man of the match spoke exceptionally well in his presentation acceptance speech. He seemed so composed for a young fellow after winning such a significant game.
I know. What I meant was any season ticket holder that wasn't going to use their ticket.
Warnock is 31. Hardly a pup.
You are correct castlebar. Typical Dub getting anywhere outside Dublin mixed up.
It was back in 2012 match abandoned due to Fog with the score Dublin 0-8-Mayo - 0-5
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Shane Walsh is a funny sort of player can go missing games, then all of a sudden bang he clicks.
