POLL: Sunday Independent/Ireland Thinks
(Jan 5-6, MoE 2.7%)
Sinn Féin 30 (+2 in a month)
Fine Gael 20 (-1)
Fianna Fáil 17 (-2)
Social Democrats 5
PBP-Solidarity 3 (-1)
Labour 3 (-1)
Greens 3
Aontú 3
Inds/others 17 (+3)
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If people leaving is a sign of failure, why would anyone return?
Varadkar on rte radio 1 interview right now
Population is growing, spinning in correct information
Irish people have always left, I did and I came back, it’s good to travel
They're not mutually exclusive. People leave because of the pitiful state of this country under FF/FG especially regarding housing/renting. They return, with their deposits saved from living in another country, in a far better position for having not lived in FF/FGs corrupt little kip. Many never return by the way despite how much we tell ourselves "what a great little kuntree dis is"
Some people are stupid enough to think Sinn Fein have a magic money tree and they will get a free house, more money in pocket and perfect health system. The rest of us have a bit of cop on
I don't think it's that people are stupid enough to think that SF have a magic money tree, but it's that people think SF could be no worse than "the shower that's in there now"
The reality is they could be an awful lot worse.
FG dragged this country out of the mire after the crash and rebuilt the economy by initially doing what the Troika told them to do, and it worked.
If anyone here can remember back a decade ago it was SF who were advocating ignoring the Troika and going our own way, God only knows where we would be now if that happened.
They have moved to a position where they just turn up for work and don't lead, don't bother with difficult issues and are running down the clock to retirement.
Its that they don't bother for good or bad that is the problem.
A country where the citizens have no interest in a right leaning party is desperately in need of a right leaning party. How did you come to that conclusion?
Why are so many coming back then?
See post #65
I'm a citizen born and bred here.
I want a right leaning party.
So no one leaves to experience a new culture and because they want to live abroad?
Why don't you start one then?
The Irish don't have the constitution (as in the stomach, not the document) for a right leaning party.
If its such a corrupt little kip, why would they want to return? Surely there's so many better options for them out there?
People returning obviously see something that warrants returning.
Pretending everything is awful is pointless, because not everything is absolutely awful and it means the real failings don't get the attention they deserve.
Rte presenter: We now have record homelessness including 4000 homeless children.
Leo Varadkar : Yeah but we also have record incomes
Not all of them return. Some return because this is their home. Usually they have saved a deposit for a house - Ireland cannot even offer them that. The basics.
Yeah the GDP is great, I mean I don't know what everyone is so mad about, my take home pay is higher than it's ever been.
Must be racism or homophobia against dear leader. Maybe both.
Its not about me starting one although seeing as you mention it I'm hoping The Farmers Alliance is up and running before the council and general elections.
I'm liking what they have to say and I'm not alone in that.
You are the one who came on here making yourself the spokesman on what citizens want as if you know what everyone in the country wants.
I think Bacik sees the writing on the wall for Labour, she seems keen to merge with the SDs although Cairns doesn't seem to want them to join up.
Not sure why because the SDs are about as big as they are going to get.
Bacik obviously cannot remember the reason why the SDs were formed in the first place - and that was to get away from Irish Tory Labour.
All that Bacik is trying to do is to use the SDs to maximise her own personal chances of getting a ministerial seat post election.
The most favourable interpretation of that data is that things haven't got any worse.
It's a flatline over the period, any variation is background noise and the y-axis scaling is a disingenuous attempt to make it look more significant than it is.
Personally, I think Bacik is vaguely aware of how deeply unpopular she is and how unpalatable she is to large swathes of the country. I suspect she thinks that amalgamating with the SDs will take the heat off her a little and neutralise that sentiment somewhat.
Frankly, both she and Cairns are a waste of space. Neither party has any future in the medium to longer term.
I didn't make myself spokes person on what citizens want. I simply highlighted what parties the citizens of Ireland have voted for and what parties the citizens of Ireland have established and supported. If all these citizens who want a right wing party but aren't arsed doing anything to help that happen I cant see that ring wing party getting very far at all tbh.
Heard him. Basically said the more the merrier as regards population and shure they'll all find places to live. When asked about the rising price of houses, openly said that the way to address this was to boost incomes. Homeless - too bad, next question.
This man is dangerous, he wants to drive population & inflation. He wants to devalue your savings and make your pension inadequate. The sooner he's kicked out, the better.
70.2 to 70.4 is a minor increase
I think worse for SF is the record at DcC when they rolled in to much fanfare saying they would build houses etc. at the end of their terms they had less units that what they started with during a population growth in Dublin.
This was during a phase when Sinn Fein blocked housing all over Ireland to make the crisis worse.
The biggest help of Sinn Fein get into government is they will stop blocking properties
It's within the noise of the dataset, there is no significant differences between any of the data points and the mean.
Varadkar was never elected in the first place. His own party voted overwhelmingly for Simon Coveney by 2:1. After "election" as Taoiseach he did so on the back of Enda Kenny's mandate. Then he effectively lost the 2020 election, finishing third, and still manages to squat his way into the Taoiseach's office. He's a complete vacuous fraud, devoid of any personality and an electoral loser.
The fact that anyone thinks FF/FG/SF are three separate parties at all shows how stupid most people are.
The reason independents have such a gain is due to FF/FG/SF "defectors" posing as independents to tap into that momentum. Just you wait, after the next election there will be a FF/FG/SF government with a faction of "independents" propping them up.
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