Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

As I was saying above, this has escalation hardwired into it.

It is rapidly going to reach the point of no conversation at all. Just a flat no thanks, goodbye.

The simple turning of the circle from being essentially bullied into accepting it, right the way round to zero tolerance of it.

As usual, cause and effect. And also as usual, the blame will forever lie on the those who cause problems in the first place.

Absolutely it’s not the reality on the ground. Planning applications can be objected to by communities, and are, all the time. There is a problem with serial objectors, but the process is necessary for democracy.

How do we get around the pesky objectors? Remove the necessity for planning permission and at the same time gaslight the nation by telling them they never had a veto in their communities.

It also seems to be in contravention of the EUs policy of decentralising power from state to local authorities. We perform particularly poorly there;

“This violates the Principle of Subsidiarity which is held in great esteem in Europe – this means that decisions should be taken as close as possible to the citizen”

We already have a clutch of such independents, many/most of whom have made critical noises about immigration policy, but it is not clear how committed they are to changing policy at a national policy or indeed how interested they are in getting involved in government formation.

I would say there are fewer and fewer people willing to bat for the economy considering that same economy is producing very little of practical return.

The economy isn't solving any of the multiple crises.

From my point of view, it is exactly the economy itself that is causing so many of these crises, becoming a monster as it were, fueled by mass migration and consuming infrastructure to no purposeful end.

That there are some who are making bank on such a collosal failure is in no doubt. One can become rich during good times, but the real wealth is made in bad times. Such as it is today.

Besides the phantom economy, voting for anyone else besides the status quo is equivalent to having your arm slowly hacked off, but taking a gamble that somebody could be better and not hack you to pieces. Even if these new people do hack you to pieces, what have you lost? So you vote again, and a new party again, and on and on and with quicker succession until the right group emerges.

The one thing that certainly isn't going to work is warning people to stick with their self destruction.

I suggest we send all refugees this year to the leafy south Dublin suburbs. There won't be a word about 'far right' this time next year outta our esteemed betters who reside there.

They want them - they get them, instead of p@#ing down our legs n telling us it's raining.

Talking to a friend there before Christmas and she swore up and down 2024 was going to be an absolute whopper for the country.

I agreed, but I said that's only until 2025 rolls around and ups it.

Actions are only beginning to meet consequences, we're still only looking at the menu of this bullshyt buffet practically speaking.

I didn't realise that the town of ballinrobe was involved in that too. Beautiful, really.

More than a few lessons to be learned on how to bypass those who have it in for you, a quick refresher on history.

Isn't he from the Irish Times? Cannot consider him unbiased as that paper is propped up financially by the current government. I don't align with any parties, btw; I think they're all largely controlled by external financiers and institutions (see previous post).

Regardless, in the macro, I feel politics just swing from left to right, like a pendulum. Problems are created at one side, which the other side then tries to "fix". That government then creates more issues before swinging the pendulum back to the other side. Repeat. The only constant is more taxes, division, and governmental control over citizens.

One thing I would ask about the current topic: what is the end goal here? Stuffing migrants into cramped emergency accommodation at every turn is unfair on both them, and the Irish people. It's been noted they're predominately all males, too, which brings it's own set of issues and potential for unrest. Theres no way the government are continuing at this pace without having some sort of outcome or "end" in mind.

The objections were always over the building or structure itself, never over the people who would be living on the premises. This idea of objecting to people moving into an area is a whole new departure for Ireland. There are around 50 direct provision centres in Ireland, none of which were met with protests (to the best of our knowledge) or arson attacks when first set up.