Israel/Palestine Thread

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I answered your question but since it was oversimplified one cannot answer simply yes or no.

In Gaza the “resistance” is Hamas so you did and you are.

I presume the reason I can’t quote you is because you blocked me. Hopeless. Happy to ‘debate’ until meets a different opinion.

I saw one poster today trying to deny the rapes claiming lack of evidence which is abhorrent given there is evidence but you appear to be trying to present this as par for the course which it clearly isn't. I didn't see any reference to blood letting so I can't comment on that.

dont i ?

but you get to dictate the opinions and voice of anyone who doesn't agree with you ? strange that

who said support any one ? i just think medieval style rape and pillage should be frowned upon , i assumed must people would but i guess pretending that it didnt happen and that the dirty jews made it all up eh ? made up all that evidence and proof too , the sneaky semites

"dont i ?"

No, you dont

"but you get to dictate the opinions and voice of anyone who doesn't agree with you ? strange that"

No, I get to voice my opinions when I disagree with yours.

"i just think medieval style rape and pillage should be frowned upon"

Cool, care to show your posts of outrage about the IDF doing this because if you haven't said anything then that would make you a massive hypocrite.

No.

No doubt the poster will reply for himself but no poster, including you, replies to every post on boards or comments on every crime or incident. What would make him, or anyone else, a massive hypocrite is if he condemns rape by one side but not by the other but, with respect, he is not required to have made a prior post just because you deem it necessary.

In the meantime some posters throughout this thread have sought to cast doubt on whether the Hamas rapes occurred or not. I note that is not you but you might want to start scanning for hypocrites in that direction.

It's weird how it gets stuck in peoples minds. I don't know if it's just something that gets stuck there because what happened to those women is horrific or because it's just something they want to use as propaganda.

I will say that the Israeli government have been terrible with providing evidence of it happening. I've read enough to know that it almost certainly happened. For crimes that occurred, there's a really shoddy investigation. Victims buried without proper autopsies, lack of forensic/DNA evidence etc... In Ukraine they have whole teams dedicated to treating every rape as a crime so that they can build criminal cases and give proof to the world. In Israel they seem not to care about any of that stuff.

And so for people who want evidence, there's very little and it casts doubt. Israel has lied about stuff in the past, the use of white phosphorus for example. And they constantly demonise the Palestinian people. So there are some people who question everything they say. There's a lot of witness testimony so to say that they're all lying brings it into conspiracy theory land but at the same time, when there's a lack of forensic evidence, then it's hard to say the extent of what happened.

If Gazans don't have bomb shelters, maybe they should ask Hamas to let them use some of those tunnels? Or better yet, to attribute a tiny proportion of the concrete that was intended for the tunnels to build a pile of small bunkers around the place. You know, like the British did in WW2.

Oh but wait - Hamas don't want to protect their own people. They want as many Palestinian deaths as possible, for propaganda purposes.

You don't seem to have much knowledge of this war, do you?

The whole zone around Gaza has been evacuated, leaving food to rot in the fields, and traumatised children unable to attend their schools and so on. Many IDF soldiers on the ground have died too.

So I don't know what the above comment means.