Is the fact that bikes arent supposed to be brought onto trains at peak times ever enforced, every evening i see people forcing themselves onto the dart with a bike in Pearse at 6pm.
Video shows one area for bike stowage, with two wheel stands backed up against the seats ont he other side. Similar to some that I have seen on some rail carriages in the UK
Irish Rail need to get off their behind, and enforce their rules. Also need to improve the facilities, and services. Multi-modal transport is part of the NTA Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy.
Should prams be banned on public transport too then?
Change 'cyclists' to 'selfish people' and your post is bang on.
How is it not the same? A transport device for one person taking up standing room for others seems to cover them both.
Maybe we can stay on subject.
Are you seriously equating a buggy for a child to a bike for an adult ?
I didn't know this thread was about sh1tting on bikes relentlessly, rather practical solutions.
It was about enforcement of existing rules
It's not bikes that aren't allowed at peak. It's non folding bikes. That's only Dart and commuter trains. Non folding bikes are allowed in the dedicated space on intercity trains.
But then they use intercity trains for commuting routes, and these do have these spaces. Of course kinda hard to know if they are full or not unless you get on.
Then again it's boards so sweeping generalising is par for the course.
Trust me, they have three spaces. They just don't advertise it. And you can only book two spaces.
Can you link to a photo with three bikes
I have one somewhere, but might take me a while to find it. I'll take one on Monday when I'm next on the train. I prefer to use it whenever I travel with a bike, as it's more secure.
Is there none online?
None I can think of.
It's mentioned regularly enough in the cycling forum, when discussions on taking bikes on the train come up.
There should be more of the cycle carriages much like are on the Cork IC line. Basically would zero out this problem.
Even this is a two bike space...
https://i.redd.it/no-bike-space-no-problem-v0-kxz2f1ek493b1.jpg?s=2f494ba352c9290382e051f2c7b7dca561760c4f
Not on the dart it wouldn’t
I'm guessing it's the lock up on the ICRs you're talking about where they keep the ramp.
It's not a bookable space and a lot of CSO's on intercity services don't like using it as it only really allows for a racer size bike in it, anything bigger and it can be tricky.
Exactly! Most CSOs will be fine with it, as long as you are nice about it. You often have to ask for it, if the other spaces are taken.
Is this it?
If so its only on a handful of routes.
No, that's the MK4, which only goes Heuston to Cork.
ICRs have a third bike space which is behind a set of doors in one of the carriages.
If you're sound about it and the bike will fit without any fuss then most will take it. They'll usually make you put it in yourself,had many a lad give out that I was damaging his €2500 bike so it's hands off now and if there's any doubts that it won't fit, usually wide handlebars are a problem as the doors won't close,then we won't allow it.
Sounds like it's not a true bike space, not easily accessible at commuter stops.
ICRs aren't designed to be commuter trains.
Well that's my reality the decades I've been using the train. Either two racks which I mostly can't use. Or the large luggage rack if I can get to it.
... or no place at all on Arrow/Dart/Luas...
You can have bike carriages on commuter rail. When the new Dart+ carriages come on stream they could repurpose some of the old rolling stock for that at peak times.
Maybe they could , as things stand right now people aren’t allowed and should be stopped taking big bikes on peak services which are generally very busy
Sorry, but this is nonsense. It's just not going to happen.
First of all, you're talking about keeping 40 year old trains in service (and maintained) that are at the end of their useful lives, and somehow magically connecting them up to brand new trains which are fully specced out already, and which they are not compatible with?
Then, even if that were possible, you'd be talking about lengthening every station platform to facilitate longer trains, due to this extra "bike carriage" and extending dwell times at stations to allow people retrieve/load their bikes.
How could that ever work on a busy commuter rail network? Bikes and commuter rail at peak times just do not mix, and that's the long and short of it.
I don't think cyclists will be facilitated in anything other than token numbers. For various reasons. Many practical and resource constraints.
A smaller folding like a 20" wheel or less is the only thing thats remotely practical.
For longer commutes it could be argued an eBike makes more sense, than using the train.
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