just home after been in the in laws for the dinner ….young lads had me up at 8 ….gave till 11 in house making up a few yokes ..mother called …face timed a few family members oversea etc …went down yard at 11 …milked 42 cows (no fresh calvers )empties ,culls and cows 50 days to calving ….did cubicles ,threw out dry cow minerals shoved in silage have 10 minutes looking at shite in tik tok 🙄🙄….back in house at 12.50…..will send in about 24 k litres this month milking oad …..easiest cheque of year I’ll probably ck up for frig all extra work …..everyone to there own farmers are no different to doctors nurses guards etc ….we all work holidays etc …we can set things up to do bare essentials days like today …after tomorrow farming back to normal
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Similar here, don't think high yielders wud last here. My Co op report is an inverse of Stans!
there was a 2/3 week period there in november cows in listowel were given away... i know of lads who bought them and the plan by them was to milk them away over the winter feed them well... factory them before calving starts.. they were adamant they were going to make money
In late October early November the northern factories stopped killing cows and local factory was paying 2€ a kg for p cows
if you don’t believe me you can ring Carnaross mart
watch The Wolf of Wall Street.. youll get a few tips from it... just dont watch it with K.G. he'll put you to sleep talking about carbon being like fugazi
They'd be a fair liability to be bringing them home.
No seperate sheds on seperate farm with seperate herd no
Heard the other day that the milk we are producing from milking through the winter is now going to Lee Strand. Kerry are some shower of F*****s if that is true and the miserable price they are paying us for it.
I was looking at lucky day competition, I sometimes enter the odd machinery competition. But can anyone tell me, what I'm supposed to do with those two if I won
Didn’t see any 200€ cows sold around here. 90c/kg was the the lowest I saw
Fair play you lad for putting up proof but i dont know how ur making money lets say 160 cows 8kltrs at 40cents say 450k milk sales.To achieve this u need feed 3 tonne all north men do feed 3 or more to achieve yields 8k .So about 200k goes meal.100k rent esb,,silage fert tractor contrator id admire ur work ethic and id say uve super cows
tbf he said in an earlier post that he suffered a bit in 2022 due to drought.... output should be measured over a multi year period rather than just one year... we all have good years, great years and an odd bad year... might be better to compare the average output of the last 5 years with the 5 years before that...
on the milking thru the winter.. i really cannot understand why lads have such a problem with it... we are doing it with years and dont mind it one bit... your going to be in the yard doing the feeding and liming cubicles... milking a few cows surely isnt that big of a deal...
Don't worry about it lads, as I said before pick a system that suits you and your farm. I'm one of those 380kg ms sold farmers, I keep the calves so they drink another good drop. But I know from previous experience that driving high yielders up the hill to graze around the rushes don't work. On the other hand, health and durability are very underrated. I have MOX cows 13 to 17 years old that always go in calf "first pick".
Fair play to stanflt, I don't know him, but his cows would not last one year on my type of farm.
I have a nice few crossbreed and I sold twenty back end from 300(boners) but mainly 800 to 1100
as far i know Stan has a very limited amount of owned land around the parlour.. he is also farming on the north dublin/meath border.. not too far from gormanston college... id imagine the land market is quite competitive and he is paying alot more than 250/acre for renting land especially if maps are going wit the land... shure you see what the lads around our area are forking out... and we are not competing with the big spud men and veg men that have the dublin market on their doorstep...
Would you not be worried about bringing TB into your herd?
Buying cows from cash strapped spring men at 200 a head is an easy way to make money tbh
634 sold last year- should finish up at 670 this year
If you cut out the land for the beef stock and cull cows you’d be making massive money per ha with just what land the dairy side needed
Can’t see how you’d make money at beef on rented land costing 350€ /ha
Up from what level in 2022? Please post for the sake of clarity in the discussion. The claim is volume drives everything so let's see how it should look. 2022 is as valid a year as any. Thank you.
320 is probably the avg rent
currently have 50 cull cows fattening along with the Angus cattle
bought 25 cull cows in November for 5000
I was ready to sell the 25 that I had but ended up buying 25 cause they were only making 200€
weight the group before Christmas and mine averaged 740kg while the ones I bought weighted 650
at current prices they’ll be worth 1500 hung- there’s more ways than milking to make money and one must exploit the opportunity when it arises
Wait till January and I’ll show you the one from 23- production up and solid % up- talking to everyone areound me and they are back 12-20 on previous year
That 2571 was from the high imput farms- the spring calving herds only avg 1800 on a 5 year avg- this report wouldn’t have included 22 or 23 when milk prices were high
Stanflt. Just wondering about the figure of 100,000 for land rental. Lets say it's 250 per acre, that's 400 acres. What is all that used for, are ye growing cash crops as well.
Agree the farmer is the most important factor in any system.
I have seen the breakdown of the epm and the figures of the top 10%,. The important figure is the €2571, which is been achieved by spring calving herds which voids your arguement that output alone drives profit.
to be honest i thought you were talking about a lot higher profit ha. With high milk prices averaging 2500/ ha profit is nothing special on a spring calving herd the last few years. The pm has other issues around not fully capturing the economic cost of producing milk but its a useful comparison between farms
Also final point Dilution alone won't give a high input farm anywhere close to an 8 cent cost saving on fixed cost.
Anyway happy Christmas, an enjoyable discussion
Well even if his kgms have slipped his fertilizer usage is dramatically down and this is a herd well established so it’s bound to plateau production wise at some point.
Weve always had autumn calvers alongside the spring calvers here and it’s something I’d think about phasing out when I’m at home full time more down to a lifestyle point of view than down to the margin.
Id love to be at @stanflt level but currently we wouldn’t have the land base for two brothers and my parents to be all looked after and my brother wouldn’t be into milking but gifted with everything mechanically and could drive any machine for you.
A lot can change in 10 years. It would be better to look at the most recent one, given all the claims made. Surely if the figures had moved on we would be seeing them?
I'm wondering, I have to say.
Maybe, but the one from 10 yrs ago is impressive enough
Co-op report from 10 years ago but not from last year? Pity. You'd like to see the progress made
Yep, each to their own. Sure if everyone was the same it would be a very boring world. We all have different motives for doing or not doing what we do and leave everyone else off to do whatever they feel like.
I'm around long enough to take figures with a large spoon of salt.
