Renting land to rear surplus stock for sale doesn't sound that lucrative.
Hallow holsteins are only over the way from me. When you are regularly getting €10k for calves and €1000 for embryos it certainly pays.
Pinch point from next year on where your calving a tight block like yourself will be having to hold your calves for 5 weeks plus/no bobbying etc, theirs probably 50k plus on alot of larger sized herds that will have to be spent on calf housing not even accounting for extra labour, and rearing costs, will be a savage bill on a larger unit where 100 plus bull calves that where usually sent on a way trip to limerick at 10 days old, will now have to kept on farm for extended periods
Cows are crossbred here, we used all sexed semen the last two years and ai beef bulls on rest of the cows. Majority of beef calves are already booked by returning customers and those lads want early calves so they will take the calves at 2 weeks.
Small bit of planning will get any farm over the calf issues, its not the end of the world to keep calves a couple of weeks longer if the rules change
Lads buying beef bulls of Jersey cross cows are on a hiding to nothing.
He’ll of a lot has changed in 10 years you’d agree …..bet if you wanted now with autumn milk you’d be selling. North of 600 kgms at this stage …..you can never rule anything in/out at this stage ….milking through again this winter oad ….3 rows back calving around 12 jan …cows getting milked to full lactation ….I’ll go down yard tomorrow about 11 …milk do cubicles and give out dry cow minerals be back in house by 12.15
We can hold 70% of calves here with current calf facilities. Have an auto feeder that can go to 4 stations if I added on 2 bays to the shed. Last soring the first 70 calves went on the feeder. Bulls, beef calves heifers vs previous years just putting the heifer calves on it. Will do it again next year
been along time since we bobbied any calves. We’re along way down the road now away from jex and haven’t had any bother moving on calves the last couple years
No, I’d be happier to sell the same solids off 800 kgs of meal and no silage mid season tbh
In that case yes. Similar lads locally here but they also pay top prices for buying stock like up to 100k.
They're obviously getting them for free and can't refuse....
I have regularly topped the mart with angus and blue calves from crossbred cows ud want to educate urself and go to mart.I sold 10 jersey cross bull calves which my calf buyer wouldnt take they were 8 to 9 weeks old and guess who bought them exporter and were exported according to icbf letter i got along with other facts about carcass weights of animal i sold three years ago.I use gd bulls
A comment I heard from lad that buys calves …he’ll never buy beef calves from x bred cows especially small framed ones …you could get great looking Charolais ,blues ,,limos etc at 2/3 weeks with belly full of milk shiny coats and buried in straw ..the jex comes out after 4/6 months …
you’ve a very simplistic view on keeping calves longer ….lot of farms will have big money to spend on calf housing as they are depending on moving calves at 2 weeks old
Sexed semen is not the answer. Just creates too many heifer calves in the country. Don't know how lads can't see that.
With sr your carrying tho that isn’t possible ….mid season or late drought is something you have to plan for now regardless
It won’t create too many heifer calves ….it will leave a shortage and a lot more beef calves
The whole thing swings on calf exports.if anything happens that trade the game is over doesn't matter whether its a je cross or the finest charolois.milk,calf to beef and suckers are shagged
Neighbour killed Angus calves this year he'd bought of us two years ago, half where of Holstein cows and half of a few jersey crosses I have, he killed them last week, and estimated the jersey cross where 30kgs deadweight lighter
What's your stocking rate on the milking platform now 4.5 plus? would you be factor ing in going zero grazing to achieve the above
Have to agree on that one. And when the market is flooded with all the beef calves off dairy it just brings the price down. A race to the bottom.
https://www.munsterbovine.ie/media/kpga4ssx/munster-bovine-spring-dairy-sires-panel-launch-2024.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3ClBRDhO_0cLcOmfR0C0JCmg-26rwLDGEPOZ6NbhPZuSf8gGJmXNARPyA
Munster Bovine will solve all our breeding problems with their lucky bag dairy bull panel.
When ever I think about emissions trading and measuring I always think of the scene from "the wolf of wallsreet"where maconaghy and de caprio are having lunch and macconaghy sells the line that the money is all fugazzi, isn't real.shinagh house is running a project too to try and achieve zero carbon too but in a different system to stans.i think the important thing is to have the headlines in the paper that irish dairy is trying to achieve this .whether it's real and achievable is a whole other issue
Yes that’s the idea any way. I’ll let you know this time next year if it was realistic or not. We’ve bred a cow for grass. They should be do well on it imo
Something like that. It’s pretty much all bs. I keep trading the carbon because I think there might be an attempt by government or big business to grab the carbon sequestration rights to land.
It’s all about optics.
Yes how long are they in the game and how much has being invested over the years in genetics, yes 10k for one calf and how many off that flush didn’t make and we’re brought to carnaross for sale to the north, not many sold in Enniscorthy or Carnew, don’t get me wrong they are top class men and great farmers, but not to many at that game nowadays. How is the merchant son getting on milking on the farms they took over in that country.
when i think of the Wolf of Wall Street... i think of Margot Robbie... but i suppose different strokes for different folks
I don't understand the merchant son? One son at home, one managing a huge unit and the 3rd son farming tillage? Is there a 4th son I don't know? The three I know are absolute top class operators.
Gardiners
Aahh yes. I thought SB meant one of the hallow boys was a merchant. My bad.
What I am hearing about these rented farms is that the man running them is more than happy with the way they are working out. Thats only 3rd hand info though.
Strokes??????
11 seconds worth
