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Overrated and disappointing films

lumphammer2

Ok ok ... we all know there have been some pretty awful and panned movies made ... we all know films have got slaughtered by the critics .... some deservedly so some not ... not all films panned by critics are bad and not all films praised by critics are good!! ... I will defend some quickly and then move on to my main issue here .... first off I am an Elvis fan ... he and Charlie Rich are my 2 fav singers of all time ... I have met fans of both and Charlie fans say they are glad he was not in films like Elvis!! ... now Elvis' films are not all bad by the way .... and many are quite good and even some of the middling ones are better than other films that are rated higher ...

... which leads us .... to overrated and disappointing films .... I recently picked up DVDs of Kingsmen: The Secret Service and Shazam! ... a Bond style thriller and a Persian inspired superhero flick? ... no ... what I got instead were 2 stupid films with 2 weak lead characters who are in no way interesting ... plus a very misplaced comedic element in both that only reminds me of that 1967 Casino Royale and that 1980s Morecombe and Wise Phantom Raspberry Blower spoof ... how can the critics pan Elvis' Harem Holdiday ... which is much better and ironically does the Persian and secret service vibes better much better! ... and praise Shazam! and Kingsmen ?? ... there are 2 other films on the Kingsmen set but I do not feel compelled to watch them .... why are awful films like these 2 highly rated?? ... I would advise anyone to steer clear of Shazam! and Kingsmen: The Secret Service .... and their sequels I am sure are worse ....

What other films are out there that are highly rated but actually useless?? ...

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MfMan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121525063#Comment_121525063

Can't agree. Thought it was formulaic and predictable, with Pacino as usual chewing up all round him. It's sequel (of sorts) Carlito's Way wasn't entirely flawless, but it was far superior to Scarface.

Had the misfortune to catch Raging Bull on the Beeb last night. Absolute mind-numb fest, with De Niro gone round the bend on method - in other words, repeating his lines many times in a row. Lots of drawn-out, tiresome domestic (abuse) scenes interspersed with short, sharp clips of his fights. Raging Dull would be a far more apt title.

Man Vs ManUre

Deadpool is very good, but Deadpool 2 is awful.

MfMan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121518102#Comment_121518102

Lovers of '2001..' tend to have contempt for '2010..', with some critics calling it "Ten past eight"!

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524098#Comment_121524098

I can't say that I'm a huge fan of Studio Ghibli or anime in general. The Mrs. really likes it though. But yeah, 'Spirited Away' is fantastic.

I was probably at the same IFC showing as Coogy, but had a very different reaction.

LOL

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524217#Comment_121524217

For a film that was made in 1968 it still looks futuristic too. Of course the real year 2001 was nothing like Arthur C. Clarke or Stanley Kubrick envisioned it, but if we take away the title the movie still relatively adds up to a convincing futuristic vision of 2000 whatever.

As a kid when I first saw it, I was baffled. Kid me was expecting a Star Wars type adventure. Instead I got a philosophical musing on the dangers of over reliance on intelligent technology and an alien creation of mankind theory. My tiny little brian just wasn't ready for that. In later years it became a favourite though, even if I do think that it could do with some cutting here and there.

I can certainly understand why some people wouldn't like it though.

sameoldname

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121525207#Comment_121525207

It's been a good while since I watched it but if I recall correctly he plays his character in Stranger Than Fiction pretty much totally straight. Fantastic film too IMO.

johnny_ultimate

Maybe it would be a better idea to simply stop listening to Ryan Tubridy's film opinions (which is extremely easy to do given he doesn't even work in RTE anymore) if they grate that much.

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524728#Comment_121524728

Anchorman 2 especially is woeful ... hard to believe it is 10 years old ... 10 years since it was overhyped by Ryan Tubridy ... I remember they planned to do a serious sequel but it was shelved ... about Iraq iirc .... cannot see Ferrell do something straight ...

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121525012#Comment_121525012

The second film was 3-4 years after the first, and part 3 was a year after part 2. First one is a truly stunning film. Had everything. I liked both sequels

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524270#Comment_121524270

Another Ryan Tubridy overhype film ... I don't know what some see in this film .... it is absolute rubbish imv ... that song Shallow is terrible and once more overhyped by Tubridy with a few of his pals singing it on his show ... The Greatest Showman is another one .... totally overhyped again by Tubridy ... and should I mention that smutfest called Fifty Shades of Grey .... Tubridy truly has diabolical taste in films ....

PS: I don't think any film mentioned here go under overrated or disappointing films ... they go under total rubbish films ....

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121517602#Comment_121517602

I remember Anchorman 2 being overhyped by Tubridy with Tubridy all over Ferrel that interview he did with him ... I have never seen Ferrel in a truly good film ... he's overhyped out of proportion by guys like Tubridy is all ...

walshb

Maybe I need to watch Gladiator again, but I found it terribly dull

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509145#Comment_121509145

Can’t agree. Great story, cinematography, excitement and was very dark. Super film.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524749#Comment_121524749

Ya sorry that's what I meant. Getting confused myself there.

coogy

I was a huge fan of Back to the Future when it came out and still have a real soft spot for it, despite its many well documented plot holes.

For whatever reason, I didn't see any of the sequels when they first came out and it was only about five years ago that I got around to catching up with the rest of the franchise.

BTTF 2 really left me cold, and was nowhere near as engaging or charming as the first movie. Did they wait too long before making the follow-up I wonder?

Iguarantee

Inception.

Absolute bollocks!

coogy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524728#Comment_121524728

Definitely with you regarding the phenomenon of Elf over the last number of years. Watched it the other day again (it just happened to be on at the time) and I was shocked at how little substance there is to it. Mostly cheap laughs with little or no context and a flimsy storyline just about holding it all together.

When you strip it all back, Ferrell's over-the-top acting ain't all it's cracked up to be.

tobefrank321

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524728#Comment_121524728

Am I allowed to say I liked both Daddys Home films?

Say Your Number

Watched 40 odd minutes of Blade Runner 2049 before switching off, it's just Ryan Gosling wandering around the place with a sour head on him, mind numbing rubbish, not that I only enjoy films with car chases and explosions every 5 minutes, can't stand drawn out indulgent crap like that.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121523979#Comment_121523979

Dear lord, I have no words.

Always thought that was a Ghibli film even the lowest common denominator could appreciate, apparently I was wrong :eek:

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524220#Comment_121524220

Grave of the Fireflies was produced by Studio Ghibli, it's just not a Miyazaki film.

It's still a 'proper Ghibli' film. One of their best for sure.

artvanderlay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121517602#Comment_121517602

I agree with you about Elf, and Anchorman and Anchorman 2 are both shite. Lazy writing and lazy performances. "Oh look how zany we are and look at all these celebrities in on the joke." Pathetic. Ferrell's is hit or miss for me, and it's mostly miss these days because he has been phoning in performances for years and relying on his overdone schtick. Having said that I really love Semi-Pro, and The Other Guys, The Campaign and Talledega Nights were good.

screamer

A star is born..... more like my brain cells died. a vanity project for lady ga ga and bradley cooper with a miserable ending. null points.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121524098#Comment_121524098

I find Studio Ghibli looks great but I tend to get bored with the fantasy plots. The only one I really loved was The Wind Rises.

Also loved Grave of the Fireflies which many mistake for a proper Studio Ghibli.

igCorcaigh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121517623#Comment_121517623

It's Kubrick at his finest; wonderful visuals, superb mood setting along with the perfect soundtrack and slow progression. I loved 2001.

The narrative about HAL was so forward looking, and added a tenseness to the film. And also that narrative did provide a hook to a film that was otherwise not based on narrative at all. This was 1968!

The obelisk theme also added an element of mystery. The playing on time, that wormhole scene, or whatever it was, the whole confusion about it and the lack of a clear ending suggested an element of absolute wonder. Brilliant film IMHO.

And who can forget that beginning! Profound and captivating throughout.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121523979#Comment_121523979

Ohhhhhhhhh......

Now......

OK. Now I actually disagree with you in that i think Spirited Away is a masterpiece. BUT I will agree that it was not especially for a mainstream/non-anime fan audience.

I am a huge Studio Ghibli fan (the animation studio that made the movie) and have visited their museum outside Tokyo many times. Last time being less than three months ago.

But that's a different thread. I can understand your reception of Spirited Away. I remember, as you say, the (deserved) fawning over it. (For most people raised on Disney etc, Japanese animation can look less smooth and more jerky. But that is a intentional, cultural design choice... that is a whole other thing). I thought it deserved it but I absolutely also remember thinking "It's brilliant, (the brief bit on the train just kills me)... but it's not for everyone"

So, while I do not agree with you (as others would not agree with my opinion that Scarface is overrated) I know where you are coming from. If you have kids I would suggest starting with "My neighbour Totoro" or "Ponyo" and I will now stop trying to convert people :)

Anyway... Next?

Edit: typos and clarifications

coogy

Spirited Away (2001)

To date, the only movie I have ever walked out of. It was hyped to within an inch of its life when it came out, receiving 5 star reviews in every publication going.

Went to see a sold out screening in the then IFC in Temple Bar. Maybe it was because I wasn't a fan of or didn't know much about 'Japanimation' but there appeared to be no coherent storyline and the fantasy world element just bugged the crap out of me and made it impossible to follow.

There was only one thing for it............

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121518910#Comment_121518910

"It's an incredible film and even that bit more incredible given it was made in 1968"

Would have been better with just the HAL story and not the obilisk stuff.

Wouldn't be anywhere near my top sci-fi list.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121517611#Comment_121517611

Do you mean 'Leave the World Behind'?

I really enjoyed it, great commentary on the state of the US and how much they've fallen socially since the 90s. Really emphasised by making the Darling of the US, Julia Roberts a hugely unlikeable miserable c*nt.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121517623#Comment_121517623

It's an incredible film and even that bit more incredible given it was made in 1968.

Man Vs ManUre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121517861#Comment_121517861

Was gonna post that when I saw the Xmas ads for it but u got in ahead of me. What an overrated film, nothing really happened in it. It was the most untroubled story of Belfast history I ever saw.