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New Acres scheme

Silverdream

Mods please amalgamate if there's another thread, I just can't find it if there is. The search on Boards is poor

Back to the new Acres Scheme.

If the acres is going to be based on a points system similar to the Reap scheme does that mean you have to be scored every year? That reap scheme looked a pure balls, i don't know how you could get an any way decent payment as they are looking for so many varieties of plants in the low input pasture and also in the Hay meadows. With ours we'd be lucky to see 2 or 3 in the grassland. Then the right kick in the hole is thistles, docks, rushers, moss and ragwort are considered weeds and attract a negative marking.

It looks like another payment cut in the guise of a results based system. We got cut from reps to Glas and now this is going to be another cut. If the scheme isn't going to pay a fair price for the activities then why would anyone bother.

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893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121505249#Comment_121505249

we had to take down a massive ash tree that was towering over our garage. Various massive branches had snapped the last few years so was too risky the whole thing come down. 80 rings or so I counted. Impossible to count the middle ones.

I need to replace it and plant a few mighty oaks etc on some key locations.

I see various mountain ash saplings growing, is there any chance these could be resistant to ash die back if I moved them to locations where they will be safe from deer?

Base price

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121505389#Comment_121505389

Mountain Ash tree doesn’t get ash dieback as it’s proper name is Rowan.

Water John

About 3% of ash trees are also resistant to the dieback. Some are looking at collecting seeds from these trees for planting.

80sDiesel

Don't forget to prune the trees when in the tree shelters and make sure grass doesn't overwhelm the saplings. I planted 1000 about 4 years ago and lost about 100 due to deer and rabbit damage when wind knocked them over.

Still have the shelters on and hoping to remove the stakes next year but leave the shelters on for a couple of more years.

It definitely requires years of vigilance but the results, especially in the summer in full leaf , makes up for all the work.

Birdnuts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121506340#Comment_121506340

Yeah - and the good news is that there appears to be growing pockets of resistance in trees around the country, so hopefully not as calamitous as the likes of Dutch Elm was back in the day

older by the day

When it comes to the trees, it says four meters apart, I was going with a few willow in a very wet corner a metre apart. Is the four meters different if they are going in together

Water John

The grove of 10 trees in the riprarian zone are 2.5m apart, I think. but if you put them in staggered lines then using Pythagoros theorem, the lines could be closer than 2.5m, just over 2m between the lines.

massey 265

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121514790#Comment_121514790

Tis a while since i heard of that buck and his theorem.

manjou

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121514790#Comment_121514790

Would love to be there when you start explaining that to dept inspector and watch the blank look on his face.

J.O. Farmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121517382#Comment_121517382

You won't need to explain pythagoras theorem. You just need a tape to measure 2.5m between trees.

If you put in the 1st line 2.5m apart when you put in the next line if you put the first tree in line with a point halfway between the trees in the previous line represented by b (1.25m) then you need c to be 2.5m which means a can be 2.16m.

There's another mirror image of this triangle with another b to the next tree in the 1st line.

Only c and 2 b's need to be 2.5m

older by the day

Feck it, IL give them the story that I left school early and I got confused with feet and meters.

Siamsa Sessions

I’m glad I didn’t gamble my €500 now on an ACRES application. The Dept are not changing their mind this time and sticking with the 4,000 places

massey 265

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121523149#Comment_121523149

Still wudnt rule out the remaining eligible acres applicants in tranch 2 getting approved as it will be around 5k in number and no doubt they will find the money somewhere after much hummin and hawing.It will be a good pr exercise for government in the new year.

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121523755#Comment_121523755

I hope you’re right and the 5,200 who paid advisors €500 and upwards get accepted. It’s poor form from the Dept thou to announce they’ve wasted their money a week before Christmas if they know they’ll say the opposite in a few weeks.

I’m still glad I didn’t submit the application. I am 90% sure of where I’m going to plant the 500m of hedging here, which would have been the only action I’d have submitted, but I’m probably changing enterprise and the paddocks that the hedging would have made permanent might be slightly different now.

Hard Knocks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121523845#Comment_121523845

Some pulled out of ACRES1, you’d think that should give additional places

joe35

So again farmers are taking on risks without knowing if they will be eligible for grant aid.

I took 25 hectares at the start of this year to set up my own flock number. I was tipping away on the father's Herd number but any time there were sales I'd have to go begging.

It won't be financially viable if I don't get into ACRES. I have some commonage so should be OK. But saying 50% of applicants won't be accepted is ridiculous. And then you don't know how much you're entitled too?????

Water John

I was one of the original group left out of Organic in 2019. Had already done the plan and totally altered farming from Jan 1st 2019. Joined one to the Organic Orgs and did the 25 hr course. Thousands spent, and lost out because I hadn't a large enough farm! In fairness to Pippa Hackett, she saw that group right. It's a risk but hopefully all will be accommodated. It has a bad PR look for the Dept if it doesn't.

Mach Two

Any of ye any experience of the Winter Bird Food crop. How is it sown and what management is needed to make a success of it.

massey 265

Decided to prune the new hedgerow that was sowed last april today .takes longer than one would expect.i put in a few metres extra and these were handy to use for replacements for the few that failed.Id recommend anyone sowing them now to do same in case a few fail.Not many did in this case.Also i stuck down the good off cuts here and there whether this was right or wrong i dont know.

Mach Two

How much are erecting nest box's worth in the scheme?

Sami23

Reply back from department this morning as I didn't get paid yet for ACRES general:

Btw has anyone got paid already who put in for the late meadow bonus as that's what's holding mine up ?

oakwork

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121585564#Comment_121585564

Still waiting here as well, was told before xmas I was cleared for payment. If late meadow is holding up the payment would it not make sense to issue a payment and leave the late meadow payment until later but at least get some much needed cash to farmers.