Lord above.. our media are going to do whatever it takes to close down farming in this country....
Hard to disagree with any of that though?
ABCD (google!) are the main commodity grains traders on the planet. They don’t have any trade or brands to look after so adverse publicity means nothing to them. They’ll trade in anything once there’s a lucrative margin for them.
To date around 20 million tons of feed are imported into the EU every year. Around 4million tons of that goes to Ireland. Due to further environmental restrictions being imposed on the grain producing areas of the EU, imports are expected to reach 40million tons in the near future…playing right into the hands of the ABCD.
25 to 28 ton a hectare without nitrogen and probably no plastic,well that's the end of that isn't it.most of the maize silage that's used around here is drawn in from 30 or 40 miles away with an average of 300 an acre surcharge for transport.
Why move to france and spend your time complaining about the irish system.
Be glad your not part of it if its that bad.
Did you lose out on land in ireland or why the chip on shoulder about irish farm systems.
There just useing ads for permits by the time the immigant pays tax farmer rent for a some kip food etc etc theyll be better off where they came from and you can be sure the farmers wont be useing them as farm manager
Yeah I know. It's very obvious what's going on. Revenue/someone must surely be aware of this shite too
I’m assuming they’re turning two blind eyes to it.
And turning them towards removing VAT rebates :-)
Its same with students placements on farm its all the big shots with connection who got not one but two and sometimes three.If i look for one no chance
Have you looked for one?
You have me in a bit of a pickle, I can’t decide whether your Conor McGregor or that lad from Fr.Ted with the ‘I shot JR’ t-shirt.
Maybe a cross between both…
That craic wouldn’t pay if meal was €500/t.
Yes no chance told theyd learn alot from me just likevu have since i joined the forum
Amazing it takes the grain growers to do it. While our dairy representatives have been sitting on their hands.
https://www.thejournal.ie/uisce-eireann-prosecution-fish-kill-cavan-wastewater-6199346-Oct2023/
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40987415.html
Are the co-ops afraid of bringing the epa down on. Their processing plants, that they haven't put millions into something like the above, their attitude still seems to be they'll get the milk they need regardless of what regulations come in, they don't seem overly bothered, which is dumbfonding
Hence why farmers try to have there main feed as grazed grass
Bovigen scour vaccine is expensive now. 8 euro a cow. I can see why guys just do the later calves
Your correct but those running are co ops arent the brightest only 2yr ago they were telling us to stall production.you have to wonder if production falls will some co ops be viable its likeva farmer reducing cow numbers
Can't believe I'm agreeing with you but I think you could be right.
The IFJ has been trotting out the line for years that "consolidation" in the processing sector would mean savings (for the co-ops) in the "dairy industry". They never explain if this would increase farm-gate price.
If operation levels drop in the co-ops, you could easily see that line being pushed again. But will they explain why a smaller co-op would want to "consolidate" and be taken over by a Kerry or Tirlan?
Probably more tom from father ted tbh.
Absolutely agree.
However when (if) nitrates reduce to 170 you’ll have grass growing out over the ditch, perhaps with questionable quality. Overly reducing artificial N can have a serious impact on quality also unless you take to using liquid urea. The fertilizer bill will become a lot smaller but not small enough to compensate for the loss of income from reduced dairy cows. So with your hectares being needed to maximize your cow numbers, and plenty land to feed them, I think that it becomes inevitable that you’re going to try to reduce your feed bill? There’s tens of thousands of European dairy farmers working off 170 and they inevitably end up going down that road.
Agree. I remember when glanbia came out with that wheeze of remember that phrase from the flu thingy of “flattening the curve”,there was my co-op committee member in my yard and on a zoom call voting on it. I laughed at him for going along with it and said to him they would be crying out for milk in a short space of time.
he couldn’t understand why I wouldn’t calve some of my cows in July to help flatten the curve.i work for myself,not for ceo of centenary or glanbia
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Look whos paying the lowest prices for milk if economy of scale was working tirlan lakeland and kerry should lead the way but they dont
Its always been around 8 euro a cow ..........
Best money youll ever spend
I'm confused about the point this group are making - the issue of sewage has been flagged in every water quality report I have read from the EPA going back years. EG.https://www.epa.ie/news-releases/news-releases-2021/unacceptable-delays-and-the-pace-at-which-essential-improvements-in-waste-water-treatment-are-being-delivered-is-too-slow-says-epa.php
There has also been an increasing number of prosecutions of Irish Water for same over the past few. My view is that every sector contributing to the problem need to step up to the plate instead of endless pointless squabbling on the matter between the major players in this area
prosecutions are a total joke... a charade.. a fine of a few grand here... a slap of the wrist there... Irish Water can add any fines to the budget they will be looking for off the govt next year...
