Agree that ROG is very unlikely to coach Ireland in the foreseeable future.
Club coaching, especially French club coaching with their budgets, is light years away from National team coaching. ROG's relationship with rugby authorities wouldn't endear him to the IRFU either. His undoubted qualities as a coach will keep his name in the conversation, but only at supporter level.
Yes, his interactions with officials are an issue but, if ROG was interested, I'd go as far as saying it'd be negligent of the IRFU if they didn't at least consider him. I don't at all see how you can say it'll only be in the conversation at supporter level with such confidence.
I don't think they'll give him any consideration unless he is under the umbrella of the IRFU first.
And I'm sure they will consider him (I haven't seen much from them in the last 10-15 years to suggest they negligent. The less said about before that the better), but his interactions with officials would be a pretty good reason to rule him out even ignoring their preference for in-house hires. I think his chances of coaching Ireland are pretty slim as things stand, but if does return to Munster and makes a run of it then obviously he would be a strong favourite.
Farrell, Catt, Easterby & POC all came to an Irish role from working outside the IRFU, no reason ROG couldn't do the same.
They all came to an assistant role.
The discussion was about ROG taking the head coach role.
Personally I'd prefer our head coach didn't spend half the season suspended for abusing officials.
I'm not sure it was
But either way, the Head job is not vacant until after the 2027 RWC, there's time yet for ROG to have an assistant role before then.
Well deserved contract extension for Andy Farrell
Definitely think ROG will then the take the hot seat
We have very different definitions of "hot seat" otherwise.
Of course he has time, if he comes in as Munster coach or assistant coach then things will change - as I said. I think there is almost zero chance he comes in from his current, or any role outside Ireland to the Irish job.
I'm well aware that was for the head position
However, you later posted
I think his chances of coaching Ireland are pretty slim as things stand, but if does return to Munster and makes a run of it then obviously he would be a strong favourite.
I then said Catt, Farrell, Paulie and Easterby all got positions in Ireland without working in a province.
That route is open to ROG too.
Fair.
I don't think he would come through the assistant coach role as I don't think there is a role for him for Ireland and a head coach at a province is a far more likely route.
I don't think either are all that likely in the grand scheme of things, but I've been wrong before.
I think there's more chance of him coming through an assistant role at Ireland than at provincial level but I also don't see him leaving LAR for a while yet, he's been too successful there to walk away now.
Which basically means the chances of him taking over in 2027 are essentially zero. Which is fair enough for both him and the IRFU.
Beyond that it will depend on who takes over the role as Ireland coach and whether he is interested in coaching Munster.
Farrell getting an extension makes a lot of sense. He's very good at racking up the wins in the June and November test windows while other teams are prepping for the World Cup, which is what the IRFU value, as it keeps the Aviva full with the casual fans who'll keep buying tickets. Yes, he failed at the World Cup, but unlike other tier 1 nations, that's not the IRFU's priority.
Who would you have got in to replace him?
Saint Sexton will never coach Ireland so :)
Salty. Saint Sexton will do whatever Saint Sexton wants to do.
Every team failed at the world cup.
Apart from the holders.
Do you sack every head coach in the world apart from one?
To be fair, Ireland defeated the eventual champions in the pool stage, and came within 4 points of the eventual losing finalists, and had a ball been touched down over the tryline would have won.
The point about not prioritising the World Cup is tenuous, like what else could they have done to better prepare for the World Cup?
Esp. when Nienaber will come in to replace Farrell when he takes a 10month sabbatical in 2025
Every team failed at the world cup. Apart from the holders
You don't even believe this
You mean prepare for a RWC like France did right?
Ah leave him alone, it must be pretty sad waiting 4 years...
Yes all other teams just want to lose from one World Cup to another while they are "prepping for the World Cup"
Tiresome. Tedious. Boring. Life's too short to read this drivel. I'll do the necessary.
Why would you do that? The logic is tight!
If only people would stop engaging the utter drivel. And quoting
Yeah, both Ireland and France have a 6N/Grand Slam apiece between the World Cups. France came second 3 times, Ireland came third twice. Maybe prepping for the WC is more successful afterall.
Ireland quite clearly were prepping for the world cup for several years before it. This was the entire point of the EI tour and the NZ midweek games. There was a lot of chopping and changing of the team over a number of years until the squad was settled on and then the focus shifted to getting the chosen squad in its best possible shape. This stuff is so tedious.
No they were only prepping if they were losing games, every team should be losing every game for 4 years then every team should win every game in the WC. It’s the only proof that the teams are doing their best
Brilliant news. Doris is one of the best players in the world and will be a cornerstone of the Ireland lack for the next 5 years at least.
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