I'm not dure if I am one of those comme tators SMN? If I am I certainly haven't said suck it up, just my circumstances leave it easier for me to stay under 170. That is mainly because I am fragmented here and it was drystock really that was driving me over the 170.
Does anyone know how long it takes to get IBR blood samples results. They were sent to a lab in Roscommon.
Ear to the ground on now just had a farmer who cut out spreading fertilizer this year. Went from 73 cows to 63 cows made 15% less silage this year ended up having to buy in silage for this winter also.
Is less still more going off of that? Hard to say it is.
On the suck it up comments.
The peat constraints kick in in 2025. Probably after the next general election. The peat constraints are no ploughing, tilling allowed and most likely lower stocking rates than the case now.
There's has never been as much focus, interference and stick shown as is now in Irish agriculture.
We have two commentators on here saying just accept it. Those two commentators have other income other than farming. No slight on ye but ye wouldn't want to be in a government agricultural focus group. Ye wouldn't give a true picture of the farming community.
Maybe ye are the reality though and instead the ag colleges should have been teaching if ye want to farm make sure and have income outside of farming.
Scoff at leafy bales and dry cow silage all you want dawg but the base of dairying in Ireland has and always will be how much high quality grass you can grow and get the cow to consume
it’s the cheapest and highest quality feed we can grow here. That’s our competitive advantage. You can grow soy bean and maize way cheaper than we can and that’s why it’s the basis of the European system due to various different factors
Irish farmers moving away from grazed grass will be to their detriment.
What do you see as the solution Dawg? I actually don't see going down the indoor route as a solution to be honest. You still have the nitrates problem and extra ground needed to grow the forage. Or possibly the same amount of ground growing more feed per ha when its in maize or wholecrop, but then not enough cows to eat it unless we go exporting slurry. That really isn’t viable for the vast majority over here as the tillage quality ground isn't available near most of the milk pool.
My own solution is stick under 170, cut cost to the bone, including my own labour to be able to keep my off farm income going as well. I have no opportunity alongside me for extra land and think the off farm option is less stress than an indoor system drawing everything in and slurry out.
tgsrs All very good if your farming at scale and have that scale to adapt ……many of us on typical Irish family farms are the ones who will feel the squeeze most …..and yes I do feel let down and not supported by our govt ,minister for ag ,advisory bodies etc …..with respect dwag very easy for you to throw statement like that out when your farming at scale your at
In all fairness Cosatron, it was I that asked for the MU. I asked so that posters might learn about different forages, and how to grow them. Nobody even asked what the forages consisted of…because from my experience on here there are two… ‘leafy bales’ and dry cow silage. Ginger posted the exact analysis of those forages and not ONE poster queried the constituents!
KG (moderator) posted recently that those that adopt to the new regs the quickest will stay ahead. I agree.
Pointing the finger at the Minister, Teagasc, Taisce, Vegans, Greens etc serves nobody. Finding solutions serves everyone.
Kerry don't give urea results.
Don't think I have ever seen a text with U in it from Kerry. Don't think they test for it.
Anybody that asks a question I will always thy to answer if possible.
It is nothing personal so don't get upset.
when you get a text from co-op with your milk sample results, the u in the text means urea. Look it forget about it if it's stressing you out.
@ this time of year we only have stale cows, milking 18 litres but not feeding meal, only silage and maize or wholecrop.
What Maize. It was silage and wholecrop they are getting.
What high protein, where do you get milk urea.
Sound i believe you, no bother. Dont stress about it
in all fairness, you said you didn't give the cows meal and then you turned around said you gave them a pinch at milking time. A pinch more than likely a half kilo to keep a cow content so that's a kilo a day on top of the maize and silage, another poster has asked you twice what your milk urea is and you have failed to respond as allot of would be curious to know what it is with that type of feeding, surely is up in the high 30s with that level of protein as im sure the pinch of nuts aren't 15% either
Yeah have heard that about there rotary’s.
Big operator in mountmellick had 2 rotary’s on 2 leased farms in stradbally and they’re near enough Waikato machines now
Mf240 would have been a regular poster here long before you joined.
It's the same brand as your milking in, been replaced
Just because you can't do doesen't mean the rest of us can't.
What brand ?
A bit of humour breaks up the willy waving.
No hassle ill just pretend i believe you next time .
No we milk away on outfarm as well up till Christmas. We do calve them all at home and then move some off as we get full. The in calf heifers and weanlings are in 3rd yard.
try telling Kerry that Milk urea is important information.... youll get a good roll of the eyes from them...
thought ye had them all on home farm while indoors for the winter.. and moved them bunch by bunch as they were calving/going to grass..? were ye doing that?
Well at this time of year we are actually trying to dry the cows off so not pushing them. Hope to have one yard closed down for Christmas.
Quite the contrary Green D. He made a brilliant ‘go of it’ but had to bail out for totally unrelated reasons.
All built and paid for out of cash-flow with some short term loans. Hell of an operator.
*Edit.
In around 20yrs he built the place up and at least quadrupled the land base..could even be x 5 times bigger. Refused completely to hire staff so had to do everything himself. Has a substantial amount of tillage also in hand..and the combine is all that’s hired in.
He’s been my dairy guru for over a decade. Brilliant guy to cut through BS, and remember he achieved all that without one cent of a grant.
I’ll miss him around the place.
Depending on inclusion rates you could be a bit shy on protein?
Milk urea is invaluable for balancing intakes. Saying that with such low production adding a pr source may not pay.
Why couldn't he make a go of it dawg I presume with the talk of cheaper land in France compared to here that. It would be okay costs wise
