Have you ever been in a situation where the EV simply didn't charge for some reason? That's another paranoid fear I have. That I'd leave it charge overnight and there would be some sort of stupid issue with it and then I wouldn't be able to get to work the next day.
Yeah, I still do 80km per day in my 24kw 152 leaf, heated everything on this time of year 😀
So 60km a day.
An EV will do. Even a 2014 Leaf!
So that’s your base line!
I'd say roughly spread over the week. I rarely go on any long journeys myself anymore.
Is that 300 miles a week spread evenly over 7 days or 5x20 mile trips and one 200 mile trip on a Sunday?
Sorry I should have said I expect to do at least 15,000 miles a year, so about 300 miles a week. I rarely go on long journeys and when we we usually take my wife's CHR hybrid. I'm a nostalgia freak so I'm really intrigued by the new Renault 5, although from what I hear that won't be available to buy for another year. At the moment my budget is about 25,000 - 30,000 but I'm in no rush so I might save for another six or even 12 months so I can afford something over 40k.
Go drive as many as you can.
Make a short list of what ones you like, and then work out which ones are in budget, new or second hand, whatever you feel.
In here, you’ll get tesla owners recommending a Tesla, Ford owners recommending a Ford, VW owners recommending a VW etc
Theres no wrong or right choice, just personal choice based on what you’ll like after driving a few.
Forgive me, but are heated seats and heated steering wheels solely on Battery type cars? All of my plug ins had one or both, cannot remember any of my hybrids with them, the only thing I really miss is heated wing mirrors on a SsangYong pickup I had,
Whats your budget? What are your commutes like? 15000km I know, but it could be 50 km a week and then twice a month 600 km, which will require a charge and sometimes that does not go well.
I have a phev and do around 14000km and I get about 200mpg, I charge out and about when it suits, mostly at home.
I just see now other cars have heated seats, the other nice thing is timed preheating, pre cooling.
I ran the numbers like you, where I have been driving various 520d MSports for the last 10 years and a typical year for me is 25,000km. When you calculate fuel and maintenance costs, I have worked out that I'll be about €2,500 better off per year in an Ioniq 6. The numbers would be very similar I'm sure (or better perhaps) for a new Tesla or any other EV with long range.
If you are thinking hybrid, I'd expect that the annual costs would be lower than you are paying at the moment, but you will still have all the maintenance costs of a combustion engine, which you won't have to pay in a BEV.
Any range anxiety I might have had is well and truly gone since I installed a charger at home and got comfortable on DC fast charger locations for very long journeys. Download the Plugshare app and see the locations for yourself.
As regards the car enthusiast comment, I suggest that you test drive an EV to experience the acceleration, the heated seats, a heated steering wheel and the sound system!
Totally agree. I much prefer my Mustang Mach E over the Tesla. When I was looking I had neighbours one of whom owned a Tesla and one owned a Mustang and the Mustang came out on top for me and thats what I went ahead and bought and am delighted with it.
I can only speak for myself but I know I love the switch to driving electric. I love my heated seats, steering wheel as well. Those really don't do much to the battery's range on my Mustang EV so no worries there. Using the heating in the car does drain the battery in winter for sure but I have a charging station installed in my garage so all good there. For me there is no comparison driving an EV is way more enjoyable then an ICE car.
I love driving, yet I don't consider myself a petrol head. Have a Model 3, would find it difficult to go back to petrol or diesel. I do between 15 and 20k kms per year, love the convenience of an EV. Heaters use a bit of energy, though Teslas heat pump is very efficient. Seats, steering wheel heating, entertainment etc is not really noticeable.
Test drive many, I like Teslas, IDs/Born and the new BYD Seal.
yeah, but in terms of tech, efficiency, speed, power & charging as a package, no one comes close.
There's more to EVs than Tesla!
I did 26k KMs in my EV in a year since I got it, about the same I did in my diesel. I was using 2 tanks a month so about 140 litres which would cost about 250 a month or 3000 so not far off you. Would have been about 40mpg too, it was an Audi a6.
There's some really nice EVs to drive, apart from engine noise they don't lack anything else.
And heated seats use hardly any battery range, it's the recommended way to heat the driver. And heated steering wheel. I use the cabin heating too as I don't struggle for range.
15k KMs a year is only a full charge once a week in a modern EV
Is it practical to use an EV to do this kind of mileage?
I average 25,000km year in my EV and we are both home based. Today I public charged for the first time since February.
I actually like cars and like driving, which is another reason I've been put off EV. Can you be a car enthusiast and drive an electric vehicle?!
Test drive a Model 3 Performance (or even just a Long Range or a RWD) and that question doesn’t matter anymore.
I enjoy my comforts like heated seats and a good sound system...I gather these things will drain the battery and so shorten the range.
the range drop you’ll see from using the sound system will be marginal, and maybe a bit more in winter when using heated seats/steering wheel and a heat pump to heat the cabin, but too little to make any meaningful distance as the cars are extremely efficient.
Honestly, test drive a Tesla and everything else is irrelevant.
Just worked out that I spent 3800 euro on diesel last year. Drove 19,000 miles, spent average 70 - 75 euro a week. I drive an old diesel that returns 40mpg. Seems an awful lot of money. I've always resisted EV's but am starting to think it might not be a bad idea. I moved house recently so will be doing less mileage but will probably still average 15k a year. Is it practical to use an EV to do this kind of mileage? Or would something like a hybrid be better? I actually like cars and like driving, which is another reason I've been put off EV. Can you be a car enthusiast and drive an electric vehicle?! I enjoy my comforts like heated seats and a good sound system...I gather these things will drain the battery and so shorten the range. Not sure what to do really...
Most likely the cable and/or the charge point are only rated for 16A(3.6kW).
Is it a newly installed charge point? Ask the installer what he set it up for?
I'm noticing that my home 7k charger only gives 3.2k when charging my 62kv Leaf. I've seen similar charger at folks house give same speed for a 40k leaf.
Is the car the issue here? Without being a scientist surely they should be taking better charge
None that I am aware of
Great little car and very comfy on long journeys but not very efficient at motorway speeds, you would be doing well to get 200km out of it but charging speeds are good
General non motorway range is 300km
I wouldn't have any reason to warn you off it based on my experience once you are comfortable that it is a small car with a smallish battery
It is nippy in sport mode and good craic to drive
Unusual pricing with different rates at different times, I wonder what happens if you cross from one time into the next one.
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Also an over stay fee per minute
And an idle fee
Any known issues with 2020/2021 Peugeot 208? is it a bad idea to buy one of the cheaper ones on donedeal?
I assume the specified contract will just be a guaranteed FIT rate? But the cynic in me suspects that it may allow them to throttle at peak times or something.
What is with Renault and non-mainstream ownership models?
They also tried battery leasing which I think went down like a lead balloon in most countries.
The new 5 will be the first all-electric Renault to feature vehicle-to-grid (V2G) compatibility, which will be able to intelligently feed electricity back into your home when electricity tariffs are high, or even into the grid itself if demand requires it. There’s no negative effect on battery life according to Renault, with the service being available through a home-installed wallbox terminal designed by Mobilize and accompanied by a special electricity contract. The V2G system will be available in 2024 in France and Germany, before arriving in the UK in 2025.
interesting...not a fan of having a contract in place to feed power back into the house. i wonder will the same contract setup apply to ireland.
The new Renault 5 looks promising:
New Renault 5: price, specs, launch and on sale dates | Auto Express
Anyone been on one yet?
”In recent weeks, new double decker battery-electric buses have been operational on certain Dublin Bus routes including the 122 and 123. Over 360 drivers have completed testing, piloting and training programme using the new buses in recent weeks.
Dublin Bus said today that even more of these electric buses will become operational now that the charging infrastructure has been completed.
Orders have been placed for a further 221 electric buses, of which 120 are destined for operation in Dublin. This brings the total number either in service or on order to 341 buses. “
For anyone used to dealing with german works councils and the power they wield, they (vw) may find it difficult to breach that agreement
Hertz US made a similar decision a few months back citing similar problems.
Very good article on petrol Vs EV costs now and to the future.
