Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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So you know its complicated subject but you don't want a complicated non-binding pleblicite ?
Can you imagine if people thought about it and the result was
Now would that make for an interesting set of Public Service Broadcasters!
But this is the issue. You can't just plan for (what you see as) the best possible outcome. You have to take the complexities into account, and the very strong likelihood that it won't go your way. This was exactly David Cameron's failing.
And no, a complicated non-binding plebiscite is a total waste of time and money. I thought the aim of all of this was to be more efficient with public revenue and resources?
Well first I knew you'd pick on the worst option, Full Government Control of Funding, no matter how I said it was just put in as a third option.
The format of the plebiscite looks for some change or no change, not out right abolition.
We are currently on the same course as we have been for the last 15 years. And a major part of that is not the funding but the mismanagement of RTÉ. I don't believe that they can honestly bring RTÉ around in the next few years. Even if you fund them correctly I believe they will continue to be as bad as ever.
By the way if such a plebiscite did occur and you agree with the currently direction you'd vote BBB.
Do you honestly believe that we should just give €300m in tax funding to RTÉ in 2024?
But you have to consider the worst option. You really have to, because you really need to be prepared for it to come to pass. I don't want to keep mentioning Brexit, but... Brexit!
And why are you (conceptually) disenfranchising those who want RTE totally abolished? I, like you, are fine with turning a blind eye to such cranks - but could a Government really invoke a poll like this and omit the choice, and still claim any legitimacy?
Look, we both know that this isn't going to happen. It was an off-the cuff comment by another poster, it's not a realistic suggestion. Like the whole thing about Conor McGregor becoming President (he, by the way, was recently promising "votes every week", even though the President has no such power).
There's absolutely no need, and definitely no public appetite, for a referendum - or even a non-binding plebiscite - on RTE. This is an argument about angels dancing on pinheads.
We have a solid mechanism for legislative and policy change already that does not expose us to the dangers of the tyranny of the majority - though the tried and tested method of representative parliamentary democracy. Find the individual or party that has a vision for RTE that you agree with, vote for them in the next General Election, and encourage others to vote for them.
Of the options that I gave you which of them is the worst? Bar the facetious one? You put forward a straight forward plebiscite with the idea that such a plebiscite must be binary.
Why would it be legitimate? because getting rid of PSBing is not something than any of the currently political parties want or are even considering. Should a party get enough votes to enter the dail, and not just one single TD, then it would be up to them to push forward with there ideas.
Legitimacy because the question was never about the funding or about existence of public service broadcasting but making it better.
So can you tell me other than continuing, what the current or future plans for PSBing are? Because while all of the parties agree with PSBing they don't seem to know what to do or even have a legitimate pre-election proposal for broadcasting.
Also your arguments against plebiscites could be attached to any political position that you don't particularly like.
Correct and right, why should some gloamer use their profile on the national broadcaster, paid for by John Q Taxpayer, to top up his or her wedge?
If you want the publicity pay for it yourself, you ligger. Time to take the gloves off here Kev.
Unbelievable Geoff..
Joe Duffy/Liveline quite frequently embeds free advertising on the “caller driven” radio show, where some are facilitated advertising lasting 15 minutes or a lot more.
One could argue that she is largely in the position to be in promotions through her association with RTE. This is why such work can be prohibited in contracts as the talent is essentially competing with the employer for advertising contracts. If for example she is seen on RTE programming or promotional material wearing the rings RTE is effectively paying for a third parties advertising.
If she was moonlighting as a taxi driver for example, then rte would have no legitimate interest in that. This is different and obviously so.
RTE could decide not to renew Doireann's contract. Then we\d see just how good she is at getting sponsorship for other contracts.
And if there was any reference to RTE, it would likely increase RTE's protection as a Public Service Broadcaster
And you don't need to have a binding referenda/plebiscite, the Mayoral plebiscites are non-binding.
the government could tomorrow set up an elected Mayor for every county town in Ireland if they so wished, without an referenda.
they could take a plebiscite and everyone could vote no and still decide to have a directly elected mayor
or everyone could vote yes and the government could decide not to have a directly elected Mayor.
Here is a good example of how a bill can be sent to check it constitutionality.
AFAIK -
Very good :) Here's mine:
The Man With The Silver Spoon/The Man With The Golden Goose.
For Dee Forbes Eyes Only.
On His Employers Secret Payroll.
Dr. No Transparency.
Never Say Tribunal Again.
The Declared Wage Is Not Enough (Give me more money, ideally under the table).
I see George Lee back on the TV, with COP23.
I could be wrong and please correct me if I am: -
I don't remember any of the Correspondents being part RTÉ election coverage. I might understand Paul Reynolds as he might be reporting on Crime.
I don't ever remember George Lee doing an election day report, or Emma O'Kelly or Brian O'Donovan. Even the presenters of Nationwide who are attached to the Newsroom don't seem to be around for this one day event.
I know that the local correspondents will work though out the day and funny I even think The Arts Correspondent did some coverage when she was working with them.
It just seems strange that RTÉ News don't just designate people for these events.
Also when was the last time you saw George Lee, for that matter where is Emma O'Kelly these days?
Georgie needed a holiday!
Although I think you and Hyperbollix have them all pretty much covered. I just couldn't help myself but to offer one:
Goldenbye.
Reading about Mehole Martin taking a legal action against Google to disclose the identities of scammers who used his face in adverts shows how far Tubridy has fallen. Varadkar's face was used like this and so was that of Miriam O'Callaghan. Once "the most trusted man in Ireland" and now?
Regards...jmcc
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Moonraker Moneyraking it in. <- that one is a bit of a stretch.
No Time to Die No time to pay back the missing 150k
Never Say Renault Again.
I know you’re just trying to be funny, but it should be noted that Tubridy’s face was used in these types of ads too.
Love it!
That would have been back when your pal was famous:
The scams move on, they always do. Two weeks ago, my mobile number was being spoofed to call people. This week, it’s not. It’s the way it works. Just pointing out the truth, not sure why that would be problematic to you.
Apologies, I do not understand?
Scammers use the faces of various celebrities to promote their scams in advertising. These ads (sometimes using Google's advertising services Adsense) are shown on various websites. Mehole Martin took an action against Google to find the identity of the scammers using his face in recent adverts.
I hope he gets a few million damages, Google are taking the piss receiving money for these ads and then saying they are not responsible for them. They should have to verify every ad is legit they are making money from.
But what is the tubs link?
Tubbs is also used in these adverts and people have fallen for them.
Turbridy is no longer famous and even the scammers don't use his image these days even if they may have done in the past.
People invested in stock based on tubs alleged insight?😂😂😂😂😂
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