Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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Their contract would suggest don't engage in anything grossly offensive in public that would damage the reputation of the company - standard stuff, even at that it would be up for debate legally if it got to that.
Whether they are a paid employee or on contract no company in Ireland exclusively owns a person or how else they choose to generate revenue or an income.
Think about it.
They are also on good wages, so there would be a certain amount of exclusivity as an RTÉ presenter, this is the reason why RTÉ pay so much so that the competition don't get these stars, you can sign on to exclusively arrangements for appearances. You also have to remember that such things take time and take them away from RTÉ, were they work, RTÉ would have to agree to let them head of to a photo shoot, unless they have arranged it during their copious amount of holidays.
There is only exclusivity if it expressly stated in the contract both sign and even then that is finite.
We abolished slavery a long time ago.
You also have to remember that such things take time and take them away from RTÉ, were they work, RTÉ would have to agree to let them head of to a photo shoot, unless they have arranged it during their copious amount of holidays.
You have pivoted to them not fulfilling their contractual obligations, that is completely different and irrelevant to the points raised.
Cynically I'd wonder about some of the things RTÉ have allowed their presenters do while on RTÉ time.
Again as I say the whole idea of high wages is to prevent people leaving, why pay so much money when you willing to allow them to be your competition.
No offence to Doireann but at this point she's a walking billboard.
I have no idea who Doireann is, but if she raises her profile using her personal social media than there is a potential gain to RTE.
There is nothing really complex about it.
It's surprising - and a little bit concerning - to see people so eager to have their bosses or companies have such a tight control over their personal lives.
It would be absolutely disastrous for society as a whole if companies had complete control over what employees (or contractors) did in their free time.
Bakhurst was correct to come down hard on presenters using RTE time (or resources) for unauthorised personal gain, as he did with Doireann Garrihy when she promoted a certain porridge brand in photos taken in her studio. Or when Lottie Ryan filmed a promotion for a car brand in the RTE carpark. But his authority rightly and absolutely stops at the RTE gate.
Ms. Garrihy's promotion of this jewellery establishment may be tacky, but it's not unlawful, doesn't interfere with RTE's commercial interests or reputation, and isn't any of RTE's business.
We should be very careful about how we call on the rights of others to be eroded because of petty gripes we have with individuals that can easily be ignored, and really mean very little in the larger scheme of things. They're our rights too.
Is it a potential gain for RTÉ?
Sure why not let all RTÉ presenters push their brand outside of RTÉ?
An independent podcast for all, The HSE Daithi's Hair Show, Maura's Penny's from Heaven Dresses, Lottie's Toyota Car Lot.
And what if they don't do well... what if they are just pushing a brand ... and that's all they are known for, and when they are on RTÉ people just think of that brand !
But sure pay them 100k and let them take in another 100k with a sponsorship.
And clearly it isn't work for her, I only know her because I look at RTÉ press clippings, and you do not. I am sure she's bring in that youth audience they are so desperate to get.
You are grossly and wildly missing the point. RTE don't have an absolute say.
If that lady wants to share a version of her private life and monetise it, that is exclusively up to here, there is a clear and obvious value to it if your assertion is correct that she is "she's a walking billboard".
I think maybe your missing the point that RTÉ suggest that their presenters are exclusive to them and that they need to be exclusive so to gain and retain an audience. Yet once you begin to be ubiquitous you just be come the next Carrie Crowley, and you get a diminishing return.
I don't see how this fits with Public Service Broadcasting.
RTÉ suggest that their presenters are exclusive to them and that they need to be exclusive so to gain and retain an audience
Do they? Either way they can suggest what they like.
It doesn't trump employment law in this country.
If they want exclusivity in X, Y or Z, they express it contractually and pay for it, the same with every other company.
The idea a company should basically own every facet of someone is as remedial as it is dangerous.
But thankfully absolute preposterous.
Exclusivity in an employment contract means not working for competitors - which would clearly be detrimental for your employer's commercial interests. So she can't work as presenter for Today FM while signed to RTE. This isn't controversial.
Plugging jewellery on her own time has nothing to do with exclusivity. If Ms. Garrihy wants to earn some extra money on her own time and with her own resources as a cleaner or a dog walker or a jewellery model, she's perfectly and lawfully entitled to do so.
Exclusivity in an employment contract means not working for competitors - which would clearly be detrimental for your employer's commercial interests. So she can't work as presenter for Today FM while signed to RTE
That wouldn't be absolute either, she could certainly work for either and do commercial work elsewhere. As does happen.
But the point you raise about directly negative contribution would be valid.
Clearly they are linked though - let said person go from RTE employment or contract. Then see how much related sponsorship/ promotional work they get. Said person is piggy backing on work for RTE.
2 referendums coming up in March how about a referendum on RTE....
oh sorry the people are too immature to decide that one.... the government will do it for them.
They clearly do suggest that there presenters and talent are "exclusive" to them and that is why they need to pay them so much money. I mean this has been their argument for a very long time.
I am not suggesting that a company own every facet of a person, I am suggesting they are a public service broadcaster with contractors and staff in a public service broadcasting company that is currently in the mists of a scandal involving sponsorships.
Again, none of what you think or what may be suggested trumps employment law.
If you want exclusivity on X, Y, Z you express it specifically contractually.
If she is a contractor she is really no different to a plumber.
Referenda are the means to amend the constitution, which in the bedrock upon which legislation is built. There’s nothing in the constitution about RTE - nor should there be.
Is RTE in the constitution?
Has Tubs got a gig with McDonald's...
So they don't ever suggest what I am suggesting they suggest :/
I'd say they specifically state their highly paid contractors are allowed certain leeway with sponsorship deals.
If she is she might want to go do some plumbing around by TodayFM!
We have had plebiscites on City Mayors. they are not binding plebiscites but they have taken place.
They can suggest what they want.
If they want something adhered to they put it in a contract which the other party has to agree to.
Contracts are not infallible they also have to adhere to Irish Employment Law.
IF this sort of fluff annoys I suggest you stop reading and sharing the likes of Evoke, it really is gutter tabloid buffoonery.
Ah Boggles I don't know why you want to defend these people.
Pointing out employment law is not defending anyone.
Highlighting the cost of the ring just makes it obvious he didn't pay for it 😂
I think RTÉ need a hand with that also. So perhaps you should email them on the issue that they have with SCOPE and the Department of Social Protection.
Why would I?
I don't work for RTE if there is a problem with employment law that is up to the employees and unions.
An excellent example of the good use of a glorified survey. Complex questions of corporate governance are, of course, a very different matter.
Look, we all know this is an "internet discussion" - one that has no, and will never have, any bearing on real life. But let's pretend for a minute that there was either the public appetite or political necessity for such a tax-payer funded opinion poll, and that a Government were stupid enough to abide by the result. What would the question be?
Should Raidió Teilifís Éireann be abolished?
🬀 TÁ/YES
🬀 NÍL/NO
Imagine the mess if either side won? If No wins, the Government can claim that they have a mandate for business as usual. If Yes wins, we're left with a black hole in our public service broadcasting duties, and nothing to fill it.
Complicate matters like that should never be put to a simple yes/no vote.
How the Tory party (mis)handled Brexit should be a cautionary tale, not a template for further ineptitude.
We in Ireland take votes on Europe all the time. I wouldn't put it like that.
The future of RTÉ as Ireland National Public Service Broadcasting
🬀 Raidió Teilifís Éireann should be abolished and replaced by a new Public Service Broadcaster
🬀 Raidió Teilifís Éireann No Change
🬀 Raidió Teilifís Éireann split among other semi-state bodies (such as TG4, Screen Ireland, 2RN as outlined by the Government)
Followed by
Future of Public Service Broadcasting Funding
🬀 Funding of public service broadcasting should come from the exchequer
🬀 No Change/ TV Licence Fee / An Post
🬀 Funding should come from tax on telecommunications and on-demand services.
Administration of Public Service Broadcasting Funding
🬀 CnaM / ComReg set funding, the decision based on Market, Independently from government.
🬀 No Change/ Minister and Department along with input from the CnaM
🬀 Full Government Control*
You rate the options 1, 2 and 3.
I don't think it should happen, but it could happen.
*I am being facetious and also looking for a 3rd option, you'll note that I haven't asked for the full abolition of RTÉ or the Licence Fee.
Talk about complicated! Could you imagine the absolute mess if the result was
I note that you don't think it should happen, and I think you have illustrated why very well.
