Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

If you believe that I’ve a bridge for sale. As one of them, Michael Noonan I believe, said not too long ago, “it’s an election, everyone lies”

Ah look I say the same about posters on the other side that wouldn't hear a bad word about an immigrant or even comprehend why immigration might be a problem.

Ninety percent of posters on here are probably very close on immigration if they sat down and discussed it.

The problem a few of both sides use hyperbole and bullshit to make it seem all or nothing, and it's a discussion forum and some like to be controversial.

The public is further to the right then the government on immigration policy in my opinion.

By mob, do you mean the people? Because that’s literally what democracy means Demos (the people) kratia (rule)

There are 1.5m Irish born people living abroad : if they hadn't left and the non nationals hadn't come here, our current population would be 5.8 million.

The longer that rejigging our refugee and asylum policy coupled with providing more housing, health and other resources is put off, ignored or otherwise shoved under the carpet, the more discontent will grow.

As what was said above, dumping people in small towns and villages and leaving them to their own devices is not fair on either them or locals.

We will not be able to keep the lid on the already simmering pot indefinitely.

Therefore, immigration / emigration has been very good for the country (using your metrics of a smaller population being desirable). An Ireland with migration = pop. of 5m. An Ireland with no migration at all = pop. of 5.8m.

Unless you're saying fine with people leaving but not with them coming here, a la Ireland in the 1950s?

Yeah and that population would have been completely organic and timely.

You seriously trying to compare a natural life cycle of citizens born and bred here adding to population numbers and large quantities of fully grown adults being jettisoned into the country over very short time spans?

It's a silly angle to take imo.

Who has ever said that? Or even intimated it?

I’ve a sister in Australia. She went there legally, got sponsored and stayed. She works. pays taxes and contributes to society. No one has any issue with this. I’ve colleagues from all over the world who do the same here.

People do have an issue with people coming here, not working, not contributing, taking from the country rather than putting into it. Using our lax laws, laid back attitude to leave to remain, to leech as much as they can. Putting pressure on housing, healthcare, education etc that they contribute less than nothing towards.

This has been explained I would say hundreds of times between this and other threads, yet the same posters bring it up over and over and over again. Wasting peoples time, clogging up threads, and generally trying to frustrate or try to get a rise.

Id suggest this is only for migrants as it appears to be a satisfaction questionnaire with your experience of being a migrant in Ireland.

Some debate. Childish hypothetical arguments about reciprocity ('Irish people went other places first!') and the drone who keeps robotically repeating over and over that a general election once every 5 years is the only input the people of Ireland get into how their existence is organised.