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Strong policing on the streets of Dublin tonight (24/11) - Read OP before posting

L.Ball

After last night there's scenes of heavy zero tolerance policing on the streets

https://twitter.com/EMoloney91/status/1728132343431671860

https://twitter.com/IREUKmedia/status/1728154352005546240

https://twitter.com/Trickstersworld/status/1728149662610117066

Which is great to see, but what would it take to see this consistently? I mean, could we see this kind of show of force one week in Darndale, then the following week in Finglas, then Tyresllstown, Jobstown etc.

Then the other side is, are any of these thugs or the ones arrested last night going to see the inside of a jail cell? I already know the answer, suspended sentences for all, is there really no appetite or political incentive for one of the main parties to push for judicial & sentencing reform?

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GSBellew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415512#Comment_121415512

I honestly never thought I would say it, but there is a lot to be said for the rubber bullet or threat of live rounds.

I do not want to see anyone get hurt, but these scrotes seem to need the stick rather than the carrot to keep them in line.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415516#Comment_121415516

Yes SFs relationship with law and order hasn’t changed…

she’s basically trying to encourage and embolden their younger fanbase…

Kermit.de.frog

The absolute gall of of Mary Lou McDonald to day regarding the Gardai.

She should remind us of Sinn Féin's traditional relationship with the Gardai starting with some of her TDs.

Strumms

Yes, if they are capable of attacking police and their vehicles, it will be citizens next.

NIMAN

Once people start attacking police, burning their vehicles, and looting shops, there is only one response that is needed.

Go in, and go in hard and heavy. Forget about worrying about offending people. That's what happens in every other major city.

You can't let scum run amok.

Strumms

Thing is looting isn’t helping injured kids, neither is damaging property.

GSBellew

I find this both amusing and frustrating.

People are complaining that the Gardai were too soft and not ready for a riot yesterday.

Yet I know in my heart that if they went in heavy handed ready for the riots and contained it and rightly went hard on the thugs, we would now have had a day of hearing bleeding heart stories about the poor wee critters that were only standing up for the child that was stabbed, for christ sake we are getting these anyway with people excusing the rioters because government blah blah blah.

I would love to see a no questions hard response to riots and looting, but people need to be behind that approach and not be on the side of the rioters which seems to be the default in this country sadly.

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415494#Comment_121415494

Seen that clip.

Need to make assault on our guards a minimum term offence.

Would make people think twice about swinging a punch at them, if they were to be guaranteed to do 12months behind bars.

StupidLikeAFox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415494#Comment_121415494

To be fair Dublin was a peaceful place at 3pm yesterday, it all started kicking off around 6 and was well contained before midnight. Those gardai were caught on the hop when faced with an angry mob. I thought the gardai as a whole responded well enough to an unusual and entirely unpredictable event and shut it down relatively quickly. We do need more guards but this is essentially a once in a generation flash point

People would equally be pissed off if we were paying loads of rapid response guards to stand around waiting for something to happen

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414623#Comment_121414623

Just saw on tik tok, two bike Gardai being set upon. They retreated into a pub or nightclub… but one while trying to keep the mob at bay pushes at one scumbag with his bicycle which is taken off him and robbed, Garda gets a smack in the head too… literally holding up the Gardai and taking their bikes..

I’m no expert on law enforcement but is it a bit odd, with everything going on that just two Gardai would be patrolling on bicycles ? The bike could and would be used as a weapon…… and was more of a hinderance to the Garda, luckily they had a door that they could retreat into…. Mad…

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415225#Comment_121415225

Agreed - call in the exterminators to take care of the vermin.

Can't remember where I seen this but someone suggested an exchange program. We send 500 Garda to lake garda and in return they send 500 Carabinieri to Dublin.

hotmail.com

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415439#Comment_121415439

GSOC need to have their powers paired back then which the Minister can implement.

mikemac2

Indeed and GSOC can interview everyone (well 3 scumbags are dead) and close the file in a week.

Instead people are facing multiple interviews and the threat of suspension for what? They do not even have a union to protect them. Little wonder rank and file believe management will save themselves first and throw others under the bus. Ah is the way of middle management no matter if you work for the State or a multi-national

3 prolific burglars dead on a motorway is a win. Not so much about the fiery death, nobody deserves that. Call me a bleeding heart

Snooker Loopy

White guy with a knife attacks a black security guard in Aldi in Ashtown. Happened this evening.

https://twitter.com/RuthCoppingerSP/status/1728183053925941553

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415378#Comment_121415378

A little while later GSOC get involved.

GSOC are obliged by law to get involved when an incident occurs during a garda pursuit (and not for no reason!)

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415402#Comment_121415402

Nice touch with the sexist sh1te there!. How can someone do their job properly when they have to also do some basic mammalian tasks? Obviously, I'm sure you'd never take a piss or a dump when at work!

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415372#Comment_121415372

Lol. Left right left right, who knows with the thugs and their party of choice.

I do agree with letting the Garda off their leash though - 24 hours Purge style.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414694#Comment_121414694

I seem to remember there being some issues around work rotas recently that pissed off quite a few Gardaí.

mikemac2

Prolific burglers drove the wrong way down on a motorway, hit a lorry and died a fiery death.

A little while later GSOC get involved.

Little wonder a garda would wonder why bother putting in the extra effort or going above and beyond. Either quit or serve your time doing the absolute minimum to retire with a pension sound easier.

The London Met allow "tactical collisions" which is ramming your squad car into a moped/scooter thief on city streets. Knock them off and grab them. Oh I wish we had this in Ireland but we do not. And never will as our Minister of Justice concentrates on hate speech

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415366#Comment_121415366

But they can't be SF supporters, cos they are lefties, not far righties.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415054#Comment_121415054

Because Sinn Fein would be up in arms with their supporters being hit with batons

hamburgham

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414694#Comment_121414694

They’re not leaving in droves. Total exaggeration. Previously no one ever left which was not normal and said a lot about the nature of the job. The numbers leaving now are still very low but this is normal. What career has a 100% retention? It’s not as though an individual has made a huge investment to become a Garda. What is it, two years and no fees? People spend years and huge sums training to be doctors, dentists, solicitors etc and often discover it’s not for them. Why the big deal about a few Gardaí leaving when it’s perfectly normal in every other field?

The Gardai were also literally a law onto themselves. I understand Harris is a disciplinarian and that isn’t going down too well. I’m guessing some of those leaving pretty much had no choice.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414227#Comment_121414227

I was just about to post something very similar. This post exactly!!

A few Gendarmerie would not be long knocking some sense into these little "@#%£@" Or let the Garda resolve it without fear of being persecuted on twitter.

Does anyone remener the Garda at the 1995 England/ireland football.

Bring that fella back & a few of his friends

Potatoeman

A few good beatings would put the fear back in the knacker elements trolling Dublin. The bleeding hearts have taken the teeth from the Gardai.

highpressisbest

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415012#Comment_121415012

And the fear of prosecution for just doing their job.

highpressisbest

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415105#Comment_121415105

Is it not pest control that is required for vermin?

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415118#Comment_121415118

Guilty as charged!!!! But you're 100% right about the capital being the cultural epicentre of the country (as well as the economic driver). It's great that you recognise this and I love your adopted Dublinese "ah here" and how it's catching. I see from your post history you're very interested in your capital and frequently talk about Dublin.

If you read back on my posts you'll see that I've advocated & supported more of Dublin money to be spent in Dublin as well as Galway and Cork. I've posted here about the need for a metro police force and a transport police. I'm sure you agree with my sentiments.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414707#Comment_121414707

Ah here, you always say Dublin is grand, not a bother. Cultural Mecca etc etc.

Idbatterim

The amount of vermin in this city is something else... needs to be much larger police presence in Dublin 1 going forward...

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414972#Comment_121414972

€2 million per km motorways that still haven't reach capacity are far more important than the safety of Dublin city folk!

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415012#Comment_121415012

If true, the Minister of Justice could change that with a stoke of a pen.

So, again, why the inaction?