Israel/Palestine Thread

That's the excuse used for the actions of child abusers, "it was done to me so that's why I do it"

Sure, and I'm making a statement about the Israeli justification, and mindset. And that is a long way from saying that I condone or approve of it. My view is quite the opposite in fact. Now what would you think about it? Israeli motivation / justification, I mean, which was the question I was trying to answer,?

Well, if Israel didn't have the Iron Dome protection when Hamas launched 20'000 missiles between 2005 up to 7the dec, I am sure that the figures would not be so skewed in favor of Palestine having the highest death toll. So even if the outcomes were different, the intent was still the same. This is just a comment on the stats and not to be taken as approval ( or not) for the actions of either side.

Depends on what you mean by "agree".

Israel said they agreed with the 1967 UN resolution but have repeatedly violated it, and continue to do it on an ongoing basis by their occupation of land allocated for Palestinians.

Why do you keep repeating the same debunked point. The IDF claimed to know the exact layout of the command and center under the hospital. They were giving briefing up to a week ago that Sinwar was hiding under the hospital. They claimed to have spies operating inside the hospital feeding them information about the current situation. If that is the case then how could Hamas dismantle a sophisticated command center and just disappear without the IDF being informed. It doesn't make sense

Now either their intelligence was faulty or they were lying . I have no doubt Hamas have tons of tunnels and a command center somewhere , but all the indications so far are suggest it's not under the hospital. If it was, given the intelligence the IDF claimed to have on the command center, they'd have found more than a few rusty rifles by now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/12/hamas-planning-terror-gaza-israel/?itid=mr_national%20security_2

Sure the Armenians, Anatolian Greeks, Assyrians, Bengalis, Sikhs, Mayans, East Timorese and Tutsis are the same.

Apparently a five day ceasefire is closed to being agreed according to the Washington Post.

I see Joe has also warned Israel about settler violence in the West Bank due to pressure from within his own administration. He did mention denying them visas

Perhaps if he threatened to cut off aid as well it might get Bibi's attention. That will never happen though.

Interesting discussing the importance of verifiable information when replying to a Chatgpt bot.

Nacho, can you show me where I said that Hamas had a control / command centre under the hospital? I've never claimed that.

If you say so...maybe you should include the Irish too?? Or maybe better still, what do you think motivates the Israelis'???? Which was the original question.

I don’t know because I can’t understand their actions to be honest. I don’t think what they are doing will contribute to the long term security or prosperity of Israel or Jewish people in the future. I think a lot of the actions are due to the political expediency of the current prime minister.

Looks like it is confirmed. Very serious stuff this lads especially for Europe if this flares up.