Forget ‘Pimp my Ride’, it’s like ‘Pimp my Parlour’ on here 😂
Can you get grant on that? What %?
This would knock it back considerably.
Well that’s horse ****
my house cost 14 k for the plumbing, underfloor heating down stairs, rads up stairs and oil boiler. We bought sanitary ware outside of that but it didn’t cost anything near 60k
mine I do agree the air to water stuff or geothermal heating is mega bucks but I really can’t see the payback on them for what you’re paying
I think you maybe right.a few years back I would have said that if you only had to borrow for either the facilities or the cows you d do ok but it's coming to the stage now that you d have to have 50 k in cash to invest as well for facilities even if you had the stock value.getting going in milking with little capital nowadays requires a very cost focused mindset and I would suggest you may have to sail very close to the wind with regulations and prepared to make sacrifices and worked very long hours.
Just can't get my head around paying 19k a year back to the bank for the next 10 years out of milking 60 cows whilst trying to make a decent margin per cow,can't see much room for further investment within that 10 years if needed also
Looking at buying land here at the moment would have payments at least that per year for 15 years but I’ll be working off farm the best part of another 10 years which will cover a lot of the payments and allow for further investment also. If I hadn’t the off farm job spending that kind of money wouldn’t be a runner.
China are cutting away back on the steel and concrete they were consuming. I'm hoping for a correction but sure time will tell.
Everyone has their own way.Have off farm income here too that would cover the repayment no issues but I want the farm to pay its own cost as it will require the most amount of my time and labour milking will probably leave me 20-30k yearly better off than my current farming enterprises but when you take out the borrowings its a harder sell in your own head
You have to eat the elephant in small bites. There is no need to go out and buy a new machine when there are plenty lads throwing out good ones a few years old. We bought a new machine, shed and tank here in 2008 because it worked out well with the grants at the time. I remember the recession hit and the price of the machine fell by about 7k overnight. Think it was about 26k for a 12 unit delaval with jars and it pumps out about 500k litres a year no bother.
Concrete won't drop whatever about steel, theirs carbon taxes that are rising yearly placed on concrete, out to 2030, up is the only way it will go
Is that investment income or from working a job, having a full time job with alongside milking would be tough going I only have to be in office 2/3 days a week and both my parents are farming full time so we roster the work if on your own and full time working with milking it would be some slog…
I agree with you about the carbon taxes but there is fair profiteering going on too. I still believe concrete is good value once you put it in the right place of course.
The concrete we are pouring now is nothing compared to years ago quality wise
Theirs a huge variation in concrete quality between cement manufactures, know a couple of midlands based cement companies that went away from one supplier for cheaper stuff from up north coming out of Scotland and had to go back to original crowd as the northern cement was failing stress tests
With the rules and regulations in place now and the ballooning costs setting up a dairy farm from scratch would be virtually impossible. There was a time you could build up bit by bit but those days are long gone.
There is only one way dairying is going in Ireland and that is down. Lots of small and medium sized farms will exit in the next few years and the remaining lads wont be able to take up the slack.
But at least the remaining producers might be appreciated by the processors.
Each year I think it puts circa 5 euro on a cubic meter of powered cement, at the start of 2020 a bulk 28 ton tanker load delivered was costing a cement operation circa 3500 euro and today its nearly 7k, family members involved drawing bulker cement and would be chatting cement men regularly and they would tell you that before covid when cement was circa 70 incl vat 40 cube they where making a lot money then today selling it at 110-120incl vat for 40 cube, costs have just went banana's
It's more or less passive income of around 35k
09 to my mind was the worst 12 was a very poor year but the milk price was reasonable 09 nearly broke every one imo
Read somewhere they used more concrete in the last five years than the US have in the last one hundred years.
We're getting concrete from 20 miles away, cant get it off plant a mile over the road. All heading to Dublin. My opinion is look after the little lad on the way up as you might need him on the way back down
Great cement down my way anyway. Far superior to anything years ago. I was putting down some last year and we got thunder rain so we just spread out a load about 2 inches thick. The lorry backed over it the next morning and not even a crack. Unbelievable stuff imo.
475 cows but can’t pay more than €30k for an “experienced dairy assistant”.
The box-ticking to get a visa for a foreign lad is getting beyond a joke now.
Its made more gas by the dairy day doing a segment next week how to attract/retain employees money is the number one motivating factor and of course rostered time-off etc, then you have teagasc discussing labour and costs on-farm and commenting on particular units where their was "very high labour costs"of 200 a cow on some units excluding family labour, of course these where the least profitable farms .....
Talking out of both sides of their arses comes to mind
Hardship for minimum pay, hope their left with nobody applying🙈
There's probably only a few mean dairy farmerss but dairy farmers seem to have name of being tight
I'll be able to tell ya in a few months how much plumbing in a house is. I know the A2W system and all it's bits and bobs is 17k and that's the cheapest I could get and it's nothing fancy. Don't know how much the plumber will cost then to put it in
There's actually another layer of management about to be added into the Health service....... no I'm not joking hundreds more people hiding from making a decision
That's some money when you stand back and think ......now I know its the best place to spend money on a yard ......it would want to be a once in a lifetime job 👍
Watching a program on Arnold Schwarzenegger on Netflix, he said the reason he liked America when he moved there was when looking at anything like a car, truck or house. "Big was not big enough"
Sure is, but as I said before that’s down to the screw, a lot of lad might say ya spent 300k but might be a fare but if rounding.
hit 2 good years so it’s pretty much paid for. Starting this year would put you right off.
it makes life easier more than just new parlour and quicker milking, indoor crush, no cleaning yard (no run off), 4 big calving pens, store room with toilet and washing facilities. 3 bays of bale/machinery storage. Overflow head feed all round holding yard. cubicles now beside parlour.
coming from a 40 year old setup, adding units or modifying shed would have been kicking the can down the road. We did that with a cubicle shed 10 years ago and it was never right. Pain in the arse separating them. Need to revisit it soon
