Yes, it is the nature of things. When politicians talk about value for money for taxpayers, they should be talking about cutting poor productivity jobs from the public sector. Capital overspend is totally over-highlighted in comparison, but that is what the general public see. Plus wage overspend happens every year, capital overruns are once off.
The 2bn overrun on children's hospital? A drop in the ocean compared to unnecessary wages paid out every year. Good luck to any politician pointing that out though.
Try Peasons...
They don't have to.
Calling them stingy or otherwise.
They've gone with a once in a lifetime build and it's their own business what they share on here.
Straightforward plan. Make good money for all the work or get out. Easier ways to just survive. I don't pay rent.
Think you’re a bit off with recent prices, greenfield good spec parlour (not rolls rice) and everything that follows for a 20 unit. Just under 450k. Given that’s no work done by the farmer. Take off your VAT and grant. Back down to 300k cost. That was completed last year. Costs are down to last gate.
Disclaimer slatted tanks were oversized to take any overflow elsewhere. Calving /holding pens and crush also included. So shed is 20m wide by 6 bays long. Very high quality plumbing/ electrics/ shed/ steel work.
*your price for the parlour machine itself is right. Just so many other bits that add up. Good example: a good quality backup generator 6k. 🙈. Use it once a year maybe but cannot so without
Full plumbing setup looking at over 20k, electrics another 20k. Long flow channel length of the shed. Say goodbye to 15k. You add in the shed structure itself, all the Concreate inside and out, builder has to be paid. the steel work besides the shed. All Adds up!
anyone looking at a rotary I’d imagine you could be out if it for less than 1m
Absolutely. Every build is different anyway and it’s no one’s business asking. Getting people to service milking machine is a big problem around where I am. My old technician I gave up on a few years ago as he wouldn’t answer the phone at multiple attempts to come on to fix vacuum level but he sent me a advertisement for a new build he did recently, I was raging. He won’t fix my old run down parlour but would like if I paid him a 6 figure some to do a new one lol, the nerve.
Service man lives not far from here, always answers the phone and if he can't call he'll tell me what to do to fix a problem. I could have gone with thevlocal milking machine crowd here but everyone I asked told me to avoid them, after sales service is ****. I didn't even ask them for a quote
You should be able to change your parlour for secondhand for a lot less. But that all depends on your technicians desire to work with secondhand equipment. And sure maybe your parlour could be upgraded by just a different motor and pump. I'm blessed with my technician. I doubled up my eight unit with secondhand equipment the technician had from another parlour they took down. That was for just into the five figures installed.
am I missing something, how are they giving a fixed price of 40cent for some of next January's milk, when it stuck at 34 now
Because they know it will be a lot higher later in the year
Milk supply is well back and there's rumours of a lot more farmers quitting milk next year.
I'd say it's a hail mary to keep what supply they have now.
Cant see many signing up after the burning they got last year
Others may confirm or correct me but I think there was 3 clearance sales in Fermoy mart this week.
My father was going on about an organic dairy herd selling out. Not sure where he saw or read it but I suppose if you are into organics you'll know about it through some network.
Plumbing 20k there has to be a mistake
I agree. It would be much more than that for the standard gold pipes and toilets we have in Trump Towers
Massive mistake.
Could include water heater and softner, wouldn't be long building up. His electricity costs seem low enough too. Even to get someone to do that work is very difficult
UV system if coming from a well maybe. Plus washdown tank and pump etc.
Look we went with the best plumber and future proofed it. Volume hose points throughout the shed. Booster tank and pump. Had to connect well on opposite side of yard. Heat recovery system to help with heating hot water.
could have done it cheaper for sure but done once and done right is a better way to go.
I paid over 3k for a water softener and uv system in my dairy a few years ago. Spent over 2k on a new hot water tank this year. Apparently it cost a minimum 60k to plump a new dwelling house, that info came from a plumber, I couldn’t believe it. That’s serious money, we’re in the wrong profession.
100% I think unless you’ve built or priced recently, you’d be forgiven for being out of touch with costs.
before starting out 350k is what we had in mind with rough estimates.
best thing we ever did though. So no regrets whatsoever
Are you talking heating and ventilation included? Even at that that's still strong money
Have a quote here from persons for a new basic 12 unit for €60k+vat,ACR's are 8k extra
For 10/12/14 units second hand is worth considering.
Ok thanks lad my house cost 10k to plumb 12vyears ago im shocked wih the prices uv shown and fair play to u for being open we cud all learn from each other.
Ours is basic enough, we have meters, i assume your quote includes feeding system. I bought water heater and bulk tank elsewhere cheaper. We've acrs but we'd need them in our parlour.
I think if you're thinking of doing work now is the time as these things aren't going to go down in price.
Hard to see a correction to building costs coming. Unfortunately any other time a recession would reset costs to a degree but they were ones that also coincided with unemployment etc. Don't see that happening evebif there is a technical recession with housing stocks low and current difficulties with every area finding workers. Covid and the war have fcuked the show in that regard.
Unfortunately it's looking like I missed the boat to do the conversion here purely down to cost of materials,concrete prices are a crippler now compared to when most new entrants got in..Would have to repay €3300 per cow over 10 years to get setup here for 60 cows and baring derogation or renting ground I'd be stuck at that
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