No surprise there, the one I had was even worse.
Terrible car.
BMS_a066 warning today, sounds like that could mean HV battery replacement! Under warranty at least if it comes to that :O
Is the car charging?
Is the SOC holding normal or dropping like a fly?
Yeah, just left topped up to 80 the last two nights and haven't done much driving at all so didn't notice the range, will try charge it again and see
I did notice the regen braking wasn't great yesterday even at 80% whether that's related
maybe cold battery.
When the HV goes too can be at 80% one minute and 23% the next. It’s very noticeable.
Hopefully it’s not HV.
You might never see that again (hopefully), out of interest is yours a 2021 US made 3?
Yeah maybe just the cold weather as Gumbo mentioned.
2021 from China
Early 2021 P models have seen replacements but these were US made. Cold weather should not give that message, it's generally the dreaded water ingress which can be intermitted at first then fatal
Have to love the tech advancements :)
6 years later, weight has gone up 10%, range up 20%, power down 10%
even the current M3 is nothing like the original M3, they may look the same but completely different drivetrain and battery which is effictively a different car in the same shell, not to mention screen update, lead acid replacement, heating revamp of seats/windows/wipers, laminated glass, electric boot etc etc etc
They've made it a real car for the masses now. For most people, these are all positive changes, which means it is a better car for nearly all use cases. On the other hand, it is less sporty than it used to be unless you get the future P equivalent. Sporty suspension and performance is not really a priority for all but a small minority. In any case, the Volvo EX30 is now a 5.1 sec 0-100 crossover. Imagine being outrun by that at the lights!
Lots of reviews appearing for it but with the youtubers/influencers all plugging accessories that benefit from stalk removal you'd take their reviews with a grain of salt.
Agreed. Tesla made some welcomed changes. Due to the price I doubt we'll see many EX30's on the road driven with a heavy right foot to embarrass M3RWD owners who care about drag racing from traffic lights. The M3 RWD is still faster than most other cars on the road. I hate all the pandering and lack of staunch criticism from most reviewers about the removal of stalks. Same story when Musk made the decision to remove USS. There's plenty of Tesla fanboys and apologists who still pander to Tesla for the lack of a functional and reliable park assist system. Unfortunately there's plenty of apologists everywhere that are dismissive of those that are critical of Teslas decisions.
I understand why media reviewers pander, if they were too harsh they wouldn't future press cars or get all expenses paid trips to launch events.
Hmm..everyone is capable of forming their own views and it is to be expected that views will vary..and deserve to be respected. Many will see the removal of stalks as a step in the right direction and of course others will form the opposite view . both are valid viewpoints if sincerely held. The use of the term "Tesla Fanboys" always provokes a reaction as the irony is not lost as of its nature it is laden with a certain bias.
Different views if freely expressed always have validity.
Perhaps a reason why the mainstream press don't normally give Tesla great reviews, usually concentrating on poor build quality, minimalist interiors etc. One even mentioned a rattly centre console. (possibly a problem on very early cars). Mine (2022) is as taut and well built as other similarly priced cars, with better UI and charging infrastructure than most. Doesn't make me a fanboy, just a nice, pleasant and efficient car..😉
Wouldn't be concerned on removal of stalks, already an after market provider with replacement stalks if anyone is that bothered, if you're spending that much on a car then a few more euros will get you stalks
Be much more interested in Tesla sorting out the p1ss poor wipers
Yeah, Would be happy to try out the Stalkless driving experience, and I'm sure would adapt to it in no time.. The majority of people that are most upset about it are the folk that have not ever and will not ever drive or own a Tesla, and already hate the brand for not having buttons or the speedo directly under the driver's eye line... as having it 9-12 degrees to the left of centre is just too dangerous for them... (Damn you Citroen, Mini & Toyota plus many more for putting the speedo in the middle of some of your cars years ago and setting Tesla down this deathly path...)
Yes, they've largely been fine the last few months, and then a few software updates and they are gone to sh1t again...
It's always 1-2 steps forward, 1-2 steps back.....
I use fanboy as term to highlight a type of behaviour that's observable and significant enough to warrant its own label, someone who's devoted to a brand to such an extent that their enthusiasm or bias can lead them to overlook flaws, or in this case, accepting safety downgrades without opposition.
Certainly not, that assertion is rather nonsensical.
Owning a Tesla is not a prerequisite for forming an opinion on design or functionality, particularly when opinions are shaped by concerns about safety and usability that affect all road users.
I don't read mainstream (Irish?)media reviews so I've no idea what they say about tesla. Can you point me to negative reviews go i can skim over? I rarely see very negative reviews against tesla on YouTube. I believe I did see one actually but they were comparing it to Lexus ES in terms of fit and finish which was a strange comparison.
Bjorn Nyland is every critical of TeslaVision and stalkless design, I mostly find my views align with his about EVs in general. I think he's the gold standard of reviewers.
I've rented teslas numerous times, didn't have app access but it didn't degrade the experience. They're great cars. I don't hate the interior, lack of buttons or lack of speedo behind the steering wheel, I think the interior is rather nice, feel less cluttered. I love how efficient they are and I love how good the app is. I love that they don't require mandated annual servicing like every other brand but I would still maintain it with whatever it needs.
The excellent snappy UI makes it a very pleasant experience. I don't care what Musk says outside of TSLA. I do care what decisions he makes as CEO of TSLA.
I see USS deletion as a terrible decision, same with their stalkless design. If a company wants to increase margins, that's fine with me. I'd rather pay a bit more for a car with stalks, rain senor, USS, and radar cruise sensor than have a cheaper car without.
Will even I buy a M3/Y without any of those parts fitted? Yes I will. But I will still voice my criticism regardless. Same as I would for any other brand I'm highly interested in and if I believe it's warranted.
Don't have any links to hand but I do remember a reasonably recent Irish Times review of the Y, which I felt was poorly written and they could not even get the price at the time correct.
Otherwise I tend to agree with what you have written, the stalk removal I don't think would worry me too much would probably get used to that fairly quickly. I suppose being used to Motorbikes would help me with the indicators. My auto wipers are also fairly good, just requiring the occasional press on the stalk
Agree with most of that if not all.
I bought a 1TB Samsung T7 SSD. So much smoother than the supplied stick. Playback doesn't jump and skip anymore.
remove it from the car and replace with either an SSD or a High Endurance MicroSD card..
Removing the parking sensors and the stalks eliminates a huge range of potential mass market buyers.
here on boards, our likes or views will differ, but we’re all car fans underneath and always keen to try new things out.
In the case of tesla for example, they represent 2% of new car sales in Ireland in 2023 - 98% of buyers bought ‘something else’ - you’d have to think that things like the USS will matter to even 1 of those other 98 buyers.
its easy for us to say it doesn’t matter - but in reality it does matter in the mass market, and quite a lot.
edit: just to add - Tesla’s also have a bit of a stigma in the mass market. Lots of marques have that same problem, but again It’s a repellent for people who just want ‘a car’
Following last weeks YT video from Enhanced that demonstrated the performance differences of the Model 3 line up, here’s another demonstrating the efficiency differences.
They did a remote diagnostic and are going to change the battery. I haven't had much luck with electric cars so far 😁
That's the first M3 battery replacement we've heard of on this forum AFAIR, let us know how you get on, would be nice if you had an OBD and scanmytesla so see capacity of replacement battery
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That's brutal. What year is your car? What's the warranty situation with a replacement pack? Does the warranty continue until end of original battery warranty? I presume it will be a refurbished battery so it'll be interesting to see what capacity it has.
Warranty, as per all the brands is for the remainder of the original term. So 8 years from the first registration date.
2021 , just over 40K miles (of which I've done about 3k lol).
Battery warranty until 2029
