Is Ireland becoming a Woke Society? Are people too scared to say anything as it may offend…..
Are we too tolerant and easily lead?
When has a grievance turned into genocide?
The exact same as Nazis, Trumpanzees, climate deniers, Brexit voters, anti-vaxxers and the other right wing cultural refuse.
Not really.They're not left wingers.Woke refers to left wingers.
So, woke is not the same as left wing by your logic but also by your logic, woke is not left wing.
There's something deranged in getting upset about a word you can't even define logically.
Eh, I just put out an observation that research suggests people who are big readers of fiction tend to be more empathetic.
Then you go on about people and feelings despite me actually using a research paper! Sorry if the research hurt your feelings.
Jaysus, can't mention research anymore without the anti woke crowd getting all emotional.
Far left wings types who are completely obsessed with identity politics.
Normal traditional left wingers who want to hep the working classes are needed, people who are completely obsessed with identity politics are really not needed, I'd argue it's quite regressive to constantly reduce people down to their gender, race, ethnicity and praise people and groups purely because of their ethnicity and demonize others and ignore them for the same reason.
I'd ask for a definition of identity politics but since we can't get one for woke, it'd be futile.
It's not the same as left wing.You can be a left winger and not be woke.
Woke refers to far left wing types who are obsessed with identity politics.Lots of people who are left wingers are not obsessed with identity politics.
I don't know, anti wokers don't read fiction or something! It was a comment about avid readers. I'm sure one or two anti wokers in the world read fiction.
Tough crowd.
Are you sure about that, quite a judgment to make based on zero evidence.
You literally gave two mutually exclusive definitions for the same word. It's there in black and white.
I see no point in continuing this. I'm almost speechless. Rancor about something nobody can define.
Everyone with half a brain these days knows what identity politics is.
If someone uses the word dog in a post do they have to define the word dog in order to keep you happy?
That's like something Malcolm Gladwell would come up with. It's fine at the individual level but saying to people in disadvantages areas like Sheriff Street, just try harder, is very superficial and meaningless on a socioeconomic level.
So, you can't define that either. Not sure why people get hysterical when asked to define something. If it's upsetting you this much, let's leave it there.
You can be left wing and not be woke however wokeness is pretty much exclusively associated with left wing politics.
Some left wingers are woke
Not all left wingers are woke.
Fairly easy to understand.
Usual bullcrap debating from you, you talk a load of nonsense thinking you're real clever and then run when someone doesn't agree with you.
Identity Politics: A tendency for people of a particular religion, ethnic group, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances .
"Neo Marxist" completes my right-wing bullshit bingo card - cheers!
Every genocide? the nazis and Jews for instance started as a perceived grievance based on ethnicity, If you look at the lingo the yanks are using currently Colonization and Decoloning, that is path to a genocide , I dont think its likely as most trends reverse at some stage but why endorse a philosophy that has such a large potential downside while also being terrible for the individual? much more positive to treat people as individuals, not treating people as some group average where by definition no such individual exists
That's just antisemitic disinformation. Hatred of the Jews is millenia old. The Nazis just industrialised it. Using genocide as an excuse to score points against people you dislike is just disgusting.
Feel free to provide proof of your claim.
All traditional norms “ were horrendous “ ?
Well it is good to see you say that “ travellers need to take more responsibility “ , most progressives ( at least public commentators) would baulk at your comment, all of the problems that bedevil travellers are the fault of prejudiced society , that is the received wisdom on the subject
I wouldn't say all but many traditional norms were morally abhorrent. Many that persist still are.
You can be “ far left “ and not woke , most woke folks are not far left at all and perfectly content with capitalism
Some indeed were and still are in many islamic countries ( though the woke are conspicuously silent about that ) but the woke tend to want all traditional norms upended and seem affronted when otherwise moderately political people are in disagreement
then the “ fascist “ or other phobe cards are played
The old "It's only bad when Muslims do it" argument. Pass.
Indeed.
It would be good if the Labour party here and in in UK went back to what it should be doing - supporting labourers, instead of wasting time on bonkers identity politics.
Hint - it's in the name of your party!!
they didnt "just industialise it", I dont think hitler was upset that the "Jews killed Jesus" , the nazis blamed the Jews for losing WW1(untrue), that fits the definition of blaming other people for your problems. Blaming other people for your problems is loser think
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/antisemitism-in-history-world-war-i
This is one of the most dishonest arguments going. Anytime someone supports the working class here, they're dismissed as Communists and genocide apologists. The only time the right cares about the working class is when they can be used to push racism and xenophobia.
i thought you might
Yes.
It's mad that I get blamed for the life outcomes of travellers. It's as if they have no agency.
A serious socialist politician would be honest, and instead of blaming everybody else, would point that a lack of engagement with education and skills will lead to poor outcomes.
