Let's not get too carried away, it's just (half of) a metro line
It's not the metro system the city desperately needs.
So Dublin will still be a city with primitive PT dominated by buses and little or no bus priority.
You and I will be well dead before the system gets built.
This Dublin <-> Swords won't be completed until 2035 at the absolute earliest, and the way things are going it could be 2045 (I'll be retired by then hopefully)
They "probably" won't start the second part of it until the first be is completed. The situation in Dublin could be vastly different by then and it might not be needed.
It will be Political Corruption which is an actual conspiracy among well connected types to line the pockets of themselves and their associates and it has been literally the history of this state at least since WW2. That is not a 'theory' by any means.
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It adds reality and pragmatism based on experience and historical prescident to the conversation, and last time I checked this is not North Korea. Well not yet anyway.
No this is not North Korea but boards.ie has specific rules about posting constructively. Once you have said you think Metrolink won't happen, there is nothing more you can contribute.
It’s not North Korea.
They have a metro!! 😄
You forgot to end your post with #fact
Doesn't count now.
(you are correct, it's not a theory, its an easily provable lie)
Large scale political corruption in Ireland, the type that would involve contracts over €100m, died a violent death in the early 2000s it was effectively banned by EU led rules. Political corruption still exists but you're talking about catering contracts, a few toilet role dispensers things that go under the value of tendering rules.
To give you an idea, a few months ago the government and opposition were slinging mud at eachother over a matter of €40.50 in delivery of undisclosed election posters. That would have been laughed at in 1980 by politicians in their personal helicopters. The companies involved in metrolink will be billion or trillion euro valued global companies with reputations worth many multiples whatever contract they stand to get through coerce means. Assuming they've found some way to bypass the thousands of checks in a multi layered tender process.
Street signs and bollards 😅
Ireland suffers very little corruption in comparison with the rest of the world. It's mostly bobbed about at around the top 5% in lists of the least corrupt countries globally. You should look around the world a little bit - a smidgen of international perspective could help temper your endless, tedious and generally unfounded negativity about the country.
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Mod: Corruption is not a subject for this forum. Best try the conspiracy forum.
I am very passionate about it and suffer constant mental health issues due to this!
I have been banging on to anyone who will listen about Metro and DART Underground since the mid-2000s.
I see the corporation tax revenues are collapsing. Wonder if this kills metro plans or puts an indefinite delay on it.
Why would it? Its not like they have to write a €5-10bn cheque in the morning for it. The glacial speed of the project should protect it from fluctuating yearly tax returns.
No connection between those two things.
Wow the posts on here are completely missing the point.
It’s the planning system that is responsible for not just the metro link debacle- but the state of all infrastructure and housing in Ireland at the moment.
Until that’s identified by the media and a political party that will make this a core reform project- the status quo will continue.
Corruption has very little to do with it.
The issue is ABP and the minister who has responsibility for ABP.
You know there's a bill going through the Dail that will reorganise ABP right? And that they've already employed 50 of the 90 extra staff that they're recruiting?
You're obviously not going to see immediate improvement, but it's not being ignored by those in government.
Yes and the bill will more than likely be defeated or be subject to a judicial review.
ABP needs to be expanded massively to deal with the backlog and the future infrastructure that needs to be built will all the excess money we have.
An awful lot of those staff are moving from county councils. Less staff there means less time to make considered decisions
We need the more experienced people at ABP. It makes sense as a career progression. They'll just have to replace with less experienced people at that level.
Apparently corporation tax is only down 2.5% to the same point last year while overall government revenue is up.
We can both look forward to taking a metro trip to Swords on our bus passes so... But I'm baffled by your "might not be needed" comment, are you contemplating global nuclear war or a 90% death rate pandemic or something?
CT take last year was inflated by one-off factors, this was flagged at the time.
Fewer staff there means fewer staff making decisions which get appealed and often overturned anyway.
This is a government bill right? to say it'll be defeated is bizarre.
It's just a small blip.
We've plenty of money for the Metro since it's spread out over 10 years.
We could easily build two Metro lines at the same time.
If we have another crash, it might derail the plans but I don't think a crash is coming. A slowdown or small recession might happen though with China, Germany, UK having problems.
BTW, large capital projects really do need to happen in Dublin. If the plug is pulled on MN, Ireland would loose face from the major construction companies involved with large metro style projects.
You'd really have to wonder where the money is being wasted if they can't ring fence money for infrastructure projects. Especially those, that we are told time and time again, are to protect our futures with greener transport.
Not only that, but its a single metro line and some upgrades to existing heavy rail, they're not overly conplex projects. Just get them built for crying out loud.
Yep, the Dart+ West and Southwest surely are easier than building the red line Luas and most of the cross city Luas.
The route and lines are already in place.
I appreciate there’s plenty of work to do, but the heavy lifting as it were was done generations ago, right?
if they can’t be done, the country is finished.
Companies are already concerned about investing in Ireland due to lack of housing. These capital projects will help ease that crisis. The country can't afford to not do these projects.
So if the bill gets passed how much sooner will a TBM be in the ground?
So you're not claiming it'll be defeated any more?
