A pit bull dog below in Wexford the latest episode of a child been savaged . Are these dogs suitable for pets .
PS The only people with Pitbulls or similar in our town are involved in drug dealing and or general criminality.
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If a guy walks down the street with a loaded hand gun in his pocket, and you report him to the gardai, they'd have him arrested and gun removed straight away.
If a guy walks down the street with a dangerous dog (or two) off the lead, no muzzle, and you reported him, nothing would happen.
If you risk assess both law breakers, I think its safe to say that the dog is the higer risk, especially if you are out walking your little dog, or a child is running around.
I am a huge dog and animal lover, but pitbulls, Akitas, german shepards, etc terrify me as i appreciate their power and predatory instincts. I dont see them.in our area, and I hope it stays this way.
It's genuinely a horrible experience having to put down a dog but banning these dogs is a necessary evil. It's the only way to take them out of the hands of careless owners
Officially banned in the UK now, if you want to keep after next Feb, you will need a license and public liability. Owners will be compensated 200 quid towards the cost of putting your dog to sleep.
I'd half take your point however different breeds have traits that were bred into them. For example (I used to do a lot of hunting with my Dad) if you want a dog that sets game you buy a, English/Irish setter and a Labrador if you want a retriever. So if a Lab brings a stick back to me I don't think anyone would be shocked. Unfortunately the same applies here, we've genetically programmed these dogs through breeding to be a certain way.
The conversation only goes one way though "Its the owners". There is a distinct lack of accepting that these dogs more than others have a propensity to maim or kill.
Just so this on Sky news
From the article:
Ministers said compensation would be provided to owners who decide to have their pets put to sleep by a vet.
Personally have to say that part is shocking..
The chance of being killed by a dog in the UK is similar to the chance of being killed by lightning. Yes there has been an increase in dog attack deaths in 2022 and 2023 but as recently as 2020 there were two deaths and zero in 2018. On sky news a while ago, someone from a dog rescue organisation said that dog ownership (all breeds) tripled during Covid and that people are now trying to rehome dogs of various breeds because they've "gotten too big". Jesus wept.
Re: bans, the UK ban on Pitbulls etc. from 1991 doesn't appear to have had much effect on the number of deaths, then again it's hard to reduce the number of deaths when they are 0 or close to it in a year.
As always, irresponsible owners are the main problem and as bull breeds and crossbreeds look tough, they tend to attract a certain type of owner who should not own any dog.
It's like with road safety and certain cars being described as safe/unsafe because of the number of people killed in collisions involving them - without taking any account of the demographics or type of people that buy different types of car.
I've no skin in this game as I don't have a dog or like them and find a lot of dog owners to be stupid. The community facebook page for my area is jammed with "my dog got out again, has anyone seen him" posts. Idiots. Still, I'd be skeptical when I hear media reports shortly after a dog attack when they report that the dog is "understood to be an XL bully" when identification is not necessarily easy. It's in the media's interest to stoke up fear about XL Bully dogs and push angles and links. it's not long ago that they were trying to stoke up hysteria about women being sexually assaulted after being "injection spiked" and they're constantly at it when it comes to guns in the US too, describing semi auto rifles as "military spec" or "assault rifles" when they are neither.
I'd hate to see anything bad happen to any breed of dog but 9 out 10 pit bull owners are scumbags, it would be a complete waste even trying to get them to look after those dogs properly because they use as a weapon or status system not a family pet. Best way to stop these kinds of people owning these dogs is getting rid of the dog, we all know any dog can attack someone but the sheer force and strength pit bulls have makes it very hard to stop them. Locally had a case of a fella with an Akita always off the lead, reported many times by nothing was ever done about it until it killed another dog that was on a lead with it's owner. There needs to be a major camp down on these dangerous powerful breeds especially with breeding and importing of fighting breeds like Tosa, Akita,Dogo Argentino,Cane Corso etc
Of course it will , it would be offense to have such a dog , and just like an illegal firearm it would carry a custodial sentence if found in you're possession !
People are more important than animals.
That's why smart people try to look after their animals as good as they can. It pays back good way.
And stupid takes them as a thing, or toy, or whatever. It pays back bad way.
Nice though predictable rhetoric that works well on a small minded community.
I honestly don't know how anyone could look at pictures of that kid in Wexford, who's disfigured for life at the age of 11, and say we don't need to do anything, things are fine.
I think there was literally no one on this thread saying we don't need to do anything.
As for your first paragraph, if you somehow suggest some people have no empathy or sympathy on this thread, you are horribly wrong..
It's more of, if anyone oppose the idea of ban, or question it. Gets that kind of response of you.
So you've analyzed the situation in a dispassionate and rational way, and come to the conclusion that small children being savaged by dogs, bred specifically to injure and kill, is not something we need to prevent.
Interesting.
I started a thread on this poor kid a few months ago.
I believe big dogs like this running loose should be shot on sight.
Edit I don't have any animals myself.
It’s not lack of empathy, but the ability to discuss a topic without getting blind sighted by emotions.
The most disturbing thing about this thread is the utter lack of empathy or sympathy from the Pitbull cheerleaders on this thread for people who've suffered life changing injuries.
It's absolutely inhuman.
I'll start by saying I'm a cat owner and would never be a dog owner. I would never be nasty to any animal though; dogs included.
The reason I'm not a dog owner though is because I would never demand loyalty from any animal...that whole thing of dogs being man's best friend is pure projection. Animals are not humans and us trying to make some poor animal bend to our human ways is pretty ridiculous.
My cats are at least honest with me and if they tell me to **** off in their own way, I'd prefer them to be like that than trying to be some kind of fearful brute I can replace my "masculity" with in public.
The point is, that Alejandro wouldn't have to go through all of that, if that dog was properly looked after and owner was following the very basic rules which are set by the law.
Another point is even with the ban, the same will be happening again, any potentially banned breed here, will be still available from backyard breeders.
I'll say it again, even the basics are not sorted properly here. So what do you expect from the ban?
Wait til you realise what people or machines are capable of
Anyway I agree I have no issue with responsible dog owners however big dogs running wild should be put down and the owners should be locked up.
Why would you need a "pet" capable of something like that ! Go ahead , laugh up your sleeve , I bet those who've been maimed or worse ,wouldn't find it "amazing " !
Ah, oops. Think I ruined it. 😁
Lol. Amazing argument
I was just cracking a joke the other poster was telling you to keep your dogs away from them you could be thousands of miles apart for all we know this is the internet.
Probably it's getting too late in the evening for me to understand what you are talking about, sorry.
Totally disagree! Certain breeds were breed for purpose , jap Akita for example was breed to take down bears !
Well I'll repeat it over & over , just like alejandro will have plastic surgery " OVER & OVER ! Spare me !
People who let their dogs use the internet without a proper firewall.
The other poster is telling you to keep your dogs away from them I agree I am terrified one of those beasts is going to pop down my fast and open online gateway.
For every good owner like yourself there're are nine who aren't. This my attempt at an olive branch.
Or popular backyard breeding..
