What way do you interpret the 3km max distance for milking platform does that mean they are proposing that only land within 3km can be counted for your stocking rate of milking cows? If you have additional land outside 3km it can’t be used for stocking rate purposes?
They will happily sacrifice farmers they've done it time and time again...once a committe lobby group and some obscure consultation body recommend it it's going to happen.as others have said its different in the wider European context . But all that's stopping them regulating the platform is a way around it
If that 3km milking platform stipulation was implemented surely there would be some sort of a revolt, milked 115 at peak at home this year and if that was implemented and derogation was to go on top of it you’d be down to 71 cows.
Thats 40% reduction in herd I’d be very slow to go farming full time if that was the case how can you expect any sort of generational renewal in farming if that comes to pass.
The government dont care about your concerns they want to abide by eurropean law.There was very little protest in general so far none for banding some small protest in horse on jockey limerick and cork rest of country was silent which is why there probably down to 220kg
Protesting should be proactive not reactive
Yes but wheres the protesting none at any stage reason been only a minority of total farmers and even a smaller minority of the population are effected.No one cares if paddy farmer has to get rid of 10 20 or 100 cows.These boys wont win elections
The demographics of farmers doesn’t help either as most are in their 60s and don’t have need to get involved as they are winding down, the ifa have achieved nothing in recent years you could see for the past two years what’s coming down the line and they didn’t decide to protest until it had come to pass.
There will be very little full time milking in 20 years time unless something is done now there isn’t one farmer under 35 milking in their own right in my parish and I’d say that is a common theme throughout the country. Any young farmers that are helping out at home with the view of taking over when parents retire that are in partnerships currently are all nearly working off farm.
That partnership craic is a real joke it was brought in for farmers to get 60 percent grant now lets be honest who was going to benefit most big or small farmers a lad in thevwest of ireland with 10 sucklers on 20 acres was hardly going to go into partnership with his son daughter.
Horses for courses, obviously it wouldn’t make sense in that scenario but it allowed people slogging in tired facilities for years to upgrade and make their job easier and more enjoyable. There was definitely no downside to partnerships for people who were intending to go full time farming.
But as you say urself most of the younger in the partnership had off farm jobs it took money away from other farmers most of the money was wasted anyway oversized parlours robots huge sheds tanks all built on the basis of access to affordable land rent which no longer exists
Not many built substantial facilities off the back of depending on rented land, what’s the issue with people making life easier and more power to them if they have excess storage now and a parlour that probably halved their milking times. The younger generation don’t want to slave and want to have a life outside of the farm being set up well will allow them to have time with their families in the future.
I can tell you for a fact the majority of lads over 100 cows have alot of land rented.Under 100 cows id say theres alot with none or a small bit.
You undertake significant investment on the back of worst case scenario, we have a good share of ground rented and wouldn’t invest heavily on facilities because that land isn’t a guarantee over the next 5 years not the mind over 15 years which would be a likely period to spread significant investment over.
But if you have the animals you need the facilities thats the problem witt dairy fatming
A lot that expanded out cubicles into existing loose sheds not everyone spent fortunes expanding, if you use what you have available already you can keep costs down
What about milk tank slurry storage calf sheds
Exhibit A. The Irish Sugar Beet industry
Do it bit by bit like the majority of farmers do. Two cubicles sheds built in early and late 2000s here grant aided, calf/calving shed and milk tank was done through tams in last three years. Tank for collecting yard is the first significant investment made at home here without grant aid.
Only ever had enough stock numbers to match facilities here and tank for collecting yard was last investment needed for us to have more than sufficient slurry storage.
Anyone else in milk-flex with tirlain, their after taking October's payment out of the September cheque here along with the September one aswell, couldn't figure out why the milk cheque was short this month to what it should of been till I seen the statement their now....
Some f**k-up to make on their side given the year that's in it
I'm looking at moving my milkflex loans to another bank, interest rate is cruel ATM with Milkflex
Wtf I just looked at mine and the same thing, how unprofessional is that shower in tirlan only a year since they were firing around the statements like confetti..
Looking at either clearing depending how things pan out over the next few months or moving elsewhere aswell..what is available with the mainstream banks?
There giving a lot better than 7.6%... One Is offering around 3.8 variable I think unsecured under 120k secured over
In the process here at the minute, credit union are offering 6.5% fixed 7 year term up to 75k, boi same rate but want land as security, that's for amount over 100k....
3.8 is basically free given where interest rates are in Europe..AIB?
Maybe low 4s can't remember! Boi
Refinanced mine with dairy flex from bank of Ireland kev ….very simple process …milk flex interest rate now 8% or above I think ….dairy flex 4.6 …
Ok phonecall required, account is with BOI
E-mailed finance Ireland demanding money is deposited into my account by close of business tomorrow, and verification of who's f**k up this is theirs our Tirlians, Jesus if it's on the co-op sides ill lose the plot altogether, had a serious run-in at a committie meeting re the milk statement fiasco with the local board member last year, they haven't a leg to stand on this time if this is on them
Mine would be well under the 100k
