Murders of two gay men in Sligo

I was under the impression you had to surrender your passport? Is there a common travel area with others Asian countries?

Sorry, I misread. I thought you were speaking about Ireland. There was a High Court ruling here a few years ago where a Judge ruled that people in the citizenship process couldn't leave the State (technically not even Northern Ireland), but it was a ridiculous ruling and was overturned.

According to a poster on this thread, they witnessed the family cheering and supporting the murderer when he was arrested.

The family have so far remained silent and have made no statement whatsoever on the killings.

The silence is telling maybe??

Let's agree that he is not a spree killer - that's when the murders are all part of a single incident. There were three distinct attacks on different days and in different locations, in one of which the victim miraculously survived.

Let's also ignore the FBI whose definitions are always self-serving i.e. to take over the most interesting investigations, while leaving the dirty work to the local cops.

I insist on calling him a serial killer not only because we must name his horrendous crimes properly [J2 doesn't agree but his/her mind is blown 🤡] but also because calling him a serial killer brings focus on key issues here - firstly, that he would have killed many more if he had not been stopped and, secondly, that his motives were not linked to the individual victims.

But what were his motives?

We are told the he was "homophobic" but why did he engage in sex with his victims?

We are told he was not "radicalised" (i.e. he was not seeking a fundamental change in society) and he is not insane (but he tried to claim he was, so we should not believe a word out of his mouth. )

We are told it was a "hate crime" but what does that signify? You might as well say Daniel Kinahan is engaged in antisocial behaviour. Who exactly does he hate?

And the €375,000?

But citizenship confers on you the same rights as other citizens, and we don't need to provide competency in Irish.

So the people including members of this site who voted against marriage equality and still bitch about it aren't Irish then?

Do we ship the no voters to there before hand and do the same for Donegal?

You think all Muslims here voted against it, you would be wrong.

Ask the same question in any Catholic or Prositant church here tomorrow morning and what answer do you expect?

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Well go into your local mosque next Friday morning and ask them all in there then.

I don't give a monkey's ar$e about Catholic, Protestant, Judaism, whatever other foreign horse$hit you want to put up on a pedestal, all the same cheeks of the same demented 7000 kilometer away Abrahamic arse that has literally nothing to benefit Ireland. They never have, and they never will.

Nobody is taken in or fooled by you, nobody is interested, Stop excusing him.

The problem is that there's no reliable method.

I have a friend. His parents are from Malaysia. He was born in Dublin. His older sister was born in Malaysia. He's in his early 40's now and has been irish since he was born. He went to school in Ireland. Went to college in Ireland and has lived in Ireland his whole life. He is as Irish as anyone I know. The only thing different about him is his skin tone.

I have another friend who's polish and moved to Ireland in his early 20's. He became an Irish citizen 15 years later. He's gay and has no intention of ever moving back to Poland. He loves Ireland and being Irish. In many ways being Irish means more to him than it does to most people who were born in Ireland.

And there's me. I was born to Irish parents in the UK. I moved to Ireland as a young child. But I've lived in multiple countries and am currently in Germany. I'm entitled to a UK passport and have occasionally thought of getting one because it would be handy to have two. But am I less Irish because I moved to Ireland when I was 4? I've had racists on here try to define what Irish is and for one I was Irish, for another I was a brit.