Is Ireland becoming a Woke Society? Are people too scared to say anything as it may offend…..
Are we too tolerant and easily lead?
The formula, unify your base by picking on a scapegoat you can all agree on. So the tiny minority of trans-people are an obvious candidate to rally the troops against.
It works every time with the simple minded.
Instead of having opinions at the risk of the perpetually offended being offended, we should instead have a silent society so we can focus on controlling everyones thoughts until we are a hive mind where everyone thinks alike. Ah yes. Sounds lovely doesn't it?
Interesting. What about those who don't want to be baby carriers and who don't wish to be identified as a baby carrier??? Or those who have the equipment but it doesn't work, or has expired?? The MADness is unreal.
If you read the article, no one was been forced to use any such terms. The terms were an extension of the more general terms such as mother and breadfeeding. It described an extension to language rather than a change.
So even in the specific instance of the NHS health trust no one was expecting you to use those terms.
Because its stupid, take Sam Smith for example who we can all see is a man but wants to be called them.
Its just attention seeking nonsense.
I don't give a **** - how has his behaviour harmed anyone ?
Are you going to have a little tantrum - are your feeling hurt ?
I see now what I'm dealing with so I'll leave you to it.
It's all really simple, does not respecting a person's identity cause them harm ? Does respecting their identity cause you harm ?
Depends on your definition of "Ireland". The establishment - political class, media etc. - are definitely trying to turn the country into a wokerati paradise. To our detriment. I'm as much opposed to racism, homophobia etc. as any decent person. But we're now at a point where you can't, for example, have an open and honest discussion about issues that affect everyone - immigration, crime, certain types of health services - without being shouted down for even asking a legitimate question, never mind having a viewpoint opposed to the collective. Immigration is the perfect example. Don't dare ask why we're still actively inviting people in their thousands to come here when we can't provide accommodation for our own citizens cause that means YOU'RE A NAZI BAD PERSON NATIONAL PARTY VOTER.
It's only a matter of time before people start turning to extreme politics because they're not allowed to question the mainstream. That's how Brexit and Trump happened and is also why Sinn Fein are poised to take power. There are people on this site who keep trumpeting about how great it is that no one in Ireland apart from a few hundred cranks and nutters vote for the likes of the National Party and the Irish Freedom party or whoever. They're using this as the basis for claiming that there's no appetite here for right wing politics.
I disagree. I reckon there's a lot of discontented voters out there who badly want to see a common sense, moderate right wing party that is prepared to ask the awkward questions about immigration, crime etc. but isn't fronted by cartoon nutters like Justin Barrett. If such a party ever emerges I reckon it would garner quite a bit of support. In our PR system which is now so heavily dependent on coalitions and independent TDs such a party could be one of the kingmakers in putting together a Government. And you'd soon see FG and FF starting to jump on their coattails and toning down their enthusiasm for the woke agenda. Look at FF. They've gone from being the most conservative mainstream party in Ireland to fully embracing the woke agenda in a relatively short time period. If the wind starts blowing in the opposite direction they'd soon change tack.
I'm nearly 50 and agree with you
When ya look closely its rarely people with actual gender ambiguity making all the noise it's usually a mob of straight people
There was a trans woman on Tommy tiernans show last year and she was amazing, she also said all this pronoun stuff confuses her and she stays clear 😂
This x 100
By bundling everything you think is a problem into the catch all phrase wokism you confuse any potential for analysing the actual issues you lump together. Wokism is a rallying call to the right - it dumbs down the debate in an attempt to rally a populist ground swell.
phycology is the problem and it isnt really science but i take your point
I don't think you understand the definition of woke.
You picked things that everyone can agree with. Funny that. What about gender quotas? You are lying to yourself if you think majority of population agree with that.
Woke is excessive political correctness and the elevation of group identity to the point where common sense and individual identity are discarded.
No. People need to stop pretending that they're not allowed to speak.
Be nice if you could have defined "woke".
There probably is something wrong with being racist. If you have enough racists in a society, you get the discrimination. Racists grow into racists on a diet of racist jokes. They generally don't get there my reading Mein Kampf off the bat.
Because some people are just out to be insulted and annoyed.
I am a Major General in the WOKE MOB and I have never, not even once, heard anyone use the term 'baby carrier' in reference to pregnancy.
I know some of the 'wokest' people on the planet and the only time I've heard the term 'baby carrier' is for a literal baby carrier (as in that device you strap to yourself to carry a baby).
You need issue a poetic license to use a baby carrier with the other definition.
There’ll be a huge swing to the right after Sinn Fein **** up their chance.
What does my head in is people that Ive dealt with for 20 plus years suddenly adding "My pronouns are xyz " to their emails to be suddenly with the in crowd.
Its boll*x.
Im not even 100% sure what "woke" is these days.
Exactly this - no matter what you say these days someones going to be offended. I mean I cant even call anyone a retard anymore.
Very true and sadly there can only be one or two Paul Murphys who can earn a living talking scutter
Cool story, bro. Now tell me the bit where Hamas murdered, raped and mutilated all those Israeli civilians? Or all the hostages that are still being kept in Gaza.
Hope you enjoyed your little march for terrorists yesterday, though.
“ tiny minority “ ?Sorry , I was led to believe that every school in the country has “ trans people “ ?
There's already a thread that covers this. It's very popular.
Inventing characters to be upset about, life on the bog must be even more grim than imagined.
Somewhat less than one percent. So your average school would take a few years for one to appear.
I class "Woke" as including but not limited to the following:
Softening language towards pedophilia and child abuse.
An obsession with exposing young children to sexuality.
Over-diagnosis of gender dysmorphia in children and rushing into life altering hormone therapies and surgery.
Covering up or ignoring of crime and anti-social behaviour by people of minority ethnic groups.
This has all happened in the US, UK and mainland Europe, I would say we are quite behind the times compare to those, but we'll see what happens after the next election.
Ah, just what Boards needs.
Another transphobic thread.
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