Great effort and Ireland's best world cup performance wise
What a game for the casual viewers!
Ireland needed the set piece to work well and it didn't. Well targeted by Nz. Congrats to them
A few posters here will be out cheering them home I’d venture
It's such a loser mentality , it's like we need to be underdogs for everything all the time . The world cup has been a failure. That's a cold hard fact , anyone who thinks otherwise is just kidding themselves.
What's wrong with acknowledging their achievements and effort, your expectations are your own business, not too many sports we getting as far in,I am ashamed of some of the Irish people crawling out of the woodwork to criticize the team today, people with no interest in sport just looking to knock our own mainly from what I can see, lurking in the shadows xxxxxx
Because Lowe has always been a liability and is not as a good player as what some people make him out to be. That was disgraceful what he did at that moment resulting in a NZ try.
Go out and shake your plastic green white and orange hammer at them so and enjoy yourself.
No bother,I will cheer our own, you can boo away, enjoy
Yeah you do that - embarrass them and yourself in that lack of self awareness manner to your hearts content
Pathetic
You must be some athlete, fair play
No I amnt at all , and it's such a hilarious response. How dare I criticize the Irish rugby team because I can't get on it? Such a funny viewpoint.
That's not it, but I would be feeding the parasites to answer further, enjoy, good night
Well then it's a silly comment. Because I am shite at rugby I cant say that our world cup was a failure. Pull the other one. Good night.
When you look back at it there was a lot of things that could have been done differently. Fatigue was definitely a factor. Not using proper squad rotation for those earlier games especially with some of our ageing key players. I think the others weren't to be trusted and a few had injuries. Its damn near impossible to win a WC with the same group week in week out. Our set pieces and the breakdown let us down and we still managed to beat SA and come within a score of NZ. I think there was a lot of postiives but we need to continue to learn and adapt to tournament rugby if we're to ever get past a QF.
IMHO NZ were not there for the taking. They're a class side despite indifferent form under Ian Foster. Their back row was world class vs Ireland and they had prepared thoroughly for this match. They deserved to win.
It’s not ‘on the day’ though as far as the question of Hemisphere performance in the World Cup is concerned, is it? The weight of data keeps adding up as we play more tournaments and the conclusion is very clear: Rugby Union is a Southern Hemisphere game. One Northern Hemisphere win from nine tournaments, and frequent outcomes like this where we have majority Southern Hemisphere participation in the semi finals.
The hype we see for the Six Nations and Autumn Internationals seems misplaced imo because it is clearly not the pinnacle of the game. We have a fair barometer of who are the best teams every four years and the answer is consistently New Zealand and South Africa. It is what it is, they are better than us.
The fatigue thing and squad rotation are mentioned every time the world cup ends.
Look at the autumn internationals. Do South Africa or New Zealand ever really pour as much of themselves into those as we do, or they do in a world cup? I feel like they always have a player or 2 that is only starting out their career too, blooding players in a big game outside of a world cup. We always go into Christmas thinking we're going to win the next world cup if we win all 3 autumn internationals.
Need to start treating the world cup as the goal. To be honest it's actually a very poor reflection on players and management across the last 30 years that no team has gotten over a quarter final. We've even gotten Wales and Argentina and been beaten. Argentina are into their third semi final FFS.
Irish rugby is at the end of something now.
It's important during the transition that has to come that we don't do a soccer thing on it and let the negative voices take over. The bitter recriminatory 'I told you so' embarassers will win if they are let.
That is what they do, they love to see good things crash and burn and will be waiting in the wings to get their fix.
The reality is we lost a 50/50 game while deservedly being viewed as one of the best teams in the world.
We still are one of the best and that is where we are at.
The negative ninny's will keep shouting 'bottlers', but they should be ignored as we use the structures and systems to rebuild. Learn from how Irish soccer ripped itself apart and didn't prepare for a future that was going to come.
The SH team try to win all these games, sorry but it is nonsense to think that countries are not trying to win games between World Cup.
The SA and NZ teams are made up of experienced international players. They also have a captive audience in their country with rugby been the number 1 sport, every top star in that country will play rugby if possible. Then if rugby doesn't work out they move onto other sports.
We are already treating the World Cup as a goal but we also need to keep the lights on. Both NZ and SA are desperate to get into the 6 nations. If they had a yearly competition like the 6 nations would they be so worried about the World Cup? no they wouldn't. As they only have the World Cup they put a huge focus on it.
Did you see the side of the draw for Argentina?
Ireland has maybe 10% of the population playing rugby and we have a Grand Slam won, u20 6 nations and u20 into the World Cup finals. We need to continue to develop young players, touch more young players and get them playing. That's the only way forward. If we had the depth of options like NZ and SA would we improve? of course we would!!
Also a global calendar would be intersting to see how good NZ and SA are if they played all the teams at the same time, they are battled hardened after playing in rugby championship etc. We played all our players to try get them up to speed and just missed out. If this was at end of 6 nations with the Ireland team humming would they have won? no idea but it would be interesting to see. The SH of course will fight the global calendar.
Lowe normally has a long and ACCURATE kick. Maybe he has a gap in the NZ back line and thought that his kick would go over the sideline
Hard to know where to go from here. A six nations win would seem incredibly boring and hollow at this stage. There's nothing the team can really do to excite as the last month has. Grim.
10%??? It would be closer to 2% surely?
This is more negative rubbish from somebody who doesn't seem to know how it works.
Sorry that's just my personal opinion, I was so hyped up for this world cup. This was meant to be it. Now we are going to try win a six nations , just seems poxy. And that's because of the major success of this team.
They left a WC behind em they had all the ability but not the mentality when it mattered the most, It cant be sugar coated a utter failure.
Many on here don't see it as a failure.
A Six Nations win with some new blood in key positions would be very encouraging. Could easily have a dip in performance after this, so if we managed to win while bringing in new talent (or giving more game time to current young bench or fringe players) would be a great success. I wouldn't be confident of it though, with France the primary threat.
The poster you quoted isn't great with numbers.
On another thread they claimed that a million Irish fans went to the world cup this year.
I think looking at the France v South Africa match last night....Ireland wouldnt have been able to live with the intensity brought from either of those teams....but we should have been able to deal with NZ....got to a final...and gave a good account of ourselves.....
Instead..the same old story...knockout game of rugby- we get knocked out....
The world cup has been a failure for Ireland.
These guys think it is them playing in the 6 Nations.
Of course it isn't and like in every sport after a competition, new players will emerge with their own targets to achieve.
Come the 6 Nations the real support will be up for cheering on the team, just like of old.
There is a desire for a crash and burn of recrimination and unwarranted criticism from some, they'll rightly be ignored.
As someone who went to all the group games and thoroughly enjoyed their time in France, meeting great people and having some fantastic experiences, remember that is what sport is all about. It's supposed to be a diversion from the quotidian grind of life - not something that defines your very existence.
The team played brilliantly and were just outdone in a 50/50 game. Remember the good stuff!
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