The draw should reflect more recent form so should have nothing to do with the prior tournament, 4 years earlier.
While it clearly affected Scotland the most, it was also unfair on Ireland and SA.
The Provinces are owned by the IRFU, they shoulder the blame here too.
Hopefully not. He’s a busted flush
Ha. No.
One game does not a busted flush make.
Hysterical nonsense.
Busted flush? How?
He didnt do what any other irish coach could do in a world cup but everything else has been very good with him. who would you replace him with?
The one game he needed to have us at our best for
OGara. Farrell has been involved in 2 world cups. Same outcome. Out in QF
And another on the ignore.
Does O Gara look like he wants to leave La Rochelle any time soon. I dont think so. He still is very young in coaching terms and may want to wait a while before thinking about the irish job.
Contracted to 2025 I believe.
Will likely be first choice for the Lions job so the timing is awkward in that respect. Will he take a 12 month sabbatical? Wales have done that in the past with Gatland and it hasn't hurt them, but I'd suggest it is far from ideal.
Doesn't matter anyway, when was the last time Ireland appointed a Head Coach from outside the Irish system? Brian Ashton?
It is really unlikely that ROG will be the next Ireland Head Coach unless he takes over a province or joins the Irish coaching team.
This is fine if this is the position you want to take.
But you then also go on to criticise the team for any other game the play poorly in.
You even criticism even when they win.
Why? If it doesn’t matter?
It’s entirely contradictory.
3 world cups. Out in the pool stage with England in 2015.
Genuinely gutted, to the point that I'm going to tune out of the rugby for the rest of the weekend at least. It feels so different though, in 07, 15 and 19 i was disappointed in the team, this time I'm disappointed for them. It took an amazing NZ performance and for us to be quite inaccurate, and even then it was a single score game with us in their 22 at the whistle. I'll be interested in seeing some analysis because it was fascinating that NZ seemed to get so much milage in both attack and defense from resourcing the breakdown. Its a bit raw for now though.
Ah make sure you tune into France v SA tonight, could be another genuine classic!
It will be hard to watch NZ v Argentina next week mind.
Time to replace farrells coaches I think, o connell not cutting it with the line out and our scrum is always in bother, thought we had a world class front row? O mahony offers no ballast, gain line or jackel threat, furlong on last legs too, fast track big Joe and baird or beirne to 6 and use conan more too
O'Mahoney was one of our best players in this World Cup.
I refuse to criticise any player. I'm blaming World rugby for making a shames of the schedule in the pool stages.
It's ridiculous that only one top team would have their two toughest games at the end of the pool stages.
So do we give what's left of this squad one more year and start the rebuild in '25 or start now?
We have lots of younger players in the squad but the back row outside of Doris is old, obviously our half backs are pretty much gone and Bundee and James Lowe are at the end of their careers too.
It's literally only Ireland you hear complaining about the draw. You don't hear NZ, SA or France moaning about it
Keep going for the 6Ns with minimal changes would be my guess.
Who do we tour next summer? Between that and particularly next Autumn we'll see a few new players come in, but it's normally fairly gradual.
You're very much wrong. Scotland moaned about it. And why would France moan about the draw?
There does have to be serious questions about what the F happened to our line out. This has been an issue since the Italy warm up game and yet nothing had changed 8 games later, Scotland looking like an anomaly, the line out worked perfectly in the 6N and before it so what on earth happened?
We need to find a balance between bringing in new players and building momentum. A large portion of the squad dont need replacing so I wouldnt worry about that, for now the ones who obviously wont make the next RWC we should move out and the rest keep for now until they start dropping off but in the meantime gradually give a replacement minutes whenever we can.
Ireland played Scotland and South Africa in their last two matches. Who else played two serious opponents in their last two games?
I haven't heard anybody complaining about it.
I'm attributing those fixtures to how jaded we looked in the last twenty minutes last night.
The harsh reality is that everything we did in the last couple of years, the series win in NZ, the grand slam, will now always have an asterisk beside it.
Agree. We should have lost to SA due to our dysfunctional line-out. They just weren't able to punish us. The ABs did.
Before the Scotland game I suggested some changes, maybe use the bench as starters and bring on a mixture of starters and 3rds to the bench.
It was says we needed to go full bore, any team with a plan to win a world cup would have a second string team that could beat Scotland in a pool game, esp if it's the last pool game before knockout rugby.
We didn't or at least we didn't trust our benchers to start.
We weren't playing a bad team or even a Fiji or Japan. We were playing the no. 5 team in the world. You don't take the fifth best team in rugby lightly.
There in lies the problem, afraid to make changes in case we'd lose to the mighty Scots.
Our final was beating Scotland, something we do in most 6Ns
