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I didn't realise that there was so much money flowing through the Trust. In around €50m in 2022 alone.
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In the news again today:
A school was out collecting for them in Rathfarnham this morning it was one of the charities they were collecting for. I would seriously question any charity and school that sent young boys out onto a busy road to collect from cars stopped in traffic.
As predicted. Chancers.
Not one cent of our money should be handed over.
I know, I just saw that yesterday. So exactly who is the council paying money to here? Is it the PMcVT? Talk about a right sh*tshow. They wanted to run roughshod over planning laws and were pulled up on it too.
From The Dublin Inquirer:
Several millions paid in relation to Avalon House, Aungier Street - doesn't appear to have housed a single homeless person. Unclear who the money is even being paid to, or why, or what role the McVerry Trust is playing.
According to the finance reports the Dublin Region Homeless Executive (DHRE) paid €2.36m for Avalon House in 2020, €2.3m in 2021 and €2.4m in 2022. It notes the service provider through those years as the Peter McVerry Trust.. A spokesperson for the DRHE says the building is not currently used for anything, but that the Department of Housing has approved funding for renovations so it can be used again.
https://dublininquirer.com/2023/10/18/the-council-has-been-paying-more-than-e2-3m-a-year-for-an-aungier-street-hostel-which-it-says-is-empty/
Planning issues also for PMcVT, it seems they decided to put a lift into an historic building with no planning, they now have to remove it and repair the building. Costs will be massive to fix it.
The former boss had concerns about this also...
Questions again about the senior Mgmt of the organisation.
Peter McVerry Trust sued by Killarney firm over failure to complete site purchase
The Peter McVerry Trust entered an agreement with the current owners Nocwerdna Ltd, High Street, Killarney, to purchase the greenfield site.
Peter McVerry Trust is being sued by a Killarney company to complete the purchase of a town centre site for sheltered accommodation to house young people.
Planning was granted in 2021 to a private individual to build an eight-room, sheltered accommodation centre on a derelict site/greenfield site on Fleming’s Lane off High Street in Killarney town centre. The facility was to house young people coming out of care.
The Peter McVerry Trust, a national housing and homeless charity, entered an agreement with the current owners Nocwerdna Ltd, High Street, Killarney, to purchase the greenfield site with a view to constructing the sheltered facility.
Honestly hope they get shut down the hostels were so badly run. Wish i could share more about my experience but i and friends i made there have been threatened by other hostel residents so dont want to identify myself.
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37m government funding, and 14m donations.
If this stops being a charity and is entirely government funded then the 14m stops flowing in to places where it is needed by the most vulnerable people in society, surely it makes sense to have this as a charity.
It is indeed odd , MvVerry is a media darling due to his staunch left wing views so he was guaranteed his usual softball interviews
I have never asked any of those questions in this thread are you mixing me up with someone else?
The government asleep at the wheel yet again. FG thirst to private absolutely everything is another disaster of a policy that has backfired.
I don't know the ins and out of what went wrong, I'd suspect its to do with poor management decision's that why the provision of support should be split from the provision of housing and the likes of PMVT should be providing support and a well run housing body should be providing the housing. I know this upset another poster but if society/tax payers are funding service's then we the funder are entitled to ask is the support working.
No need for the drama queenery. Having an unsatisfied revenue debt is neither corruption nor criminal fraud. Never has been. Revenue have never suggested that it is and, if anyone has a motivation to big up the seriousness of the matter, they do.
i love how the insult and shock is they get nearly 40 mil a year from the government - rather than being shocked that the government spends 40 mil a year giving a housing charity money rather than building houses
There are a number of investigations ongoing. They are dealing with it.
Surely you’ve been in touch with Gardai about the criminal fraud committed?
Silly me thinking this thread was about the PMVT and wouldn't be taken over by whataboutery.
For clarification, I was referring to PMVT in my post.
The poster was talking about the HSE
It is corrupt to take money meant for Revenue and spend it on something else. It is also criminal fraud.
Waste is one thing but corruption? that's another thing.
Peter McVerry Housing Trust really upped their game in the last 4/5 years, with the increasing issues around housing and homelessness, that's not surprising. What is surprising is the level of growth and so quickly, and how it was administered and managed.
My fear also is that is has been sucked into the, how can I say, not very nice property and construction industry and the sharks that inhabit within. The last two government housing strategies, Rebuilding Ireland and Housing for All, and the vast amounts of money on offer, have attracted many middlemen, each wanting a slice of the State's largesse.
They remind me of what my take of the country's local authorities are, a bunch of incompetents, ripe for plunder by an army of chancers.
Two separate investigations. That's another argument why they should be the single overarching regulatory organisation for the NFP sector.
So what 'waste and corruption' were you referring to?
I saw far more waste and corruption in six weeks working for the HSE than I did in a year working for one of the large housing charities (not PMV).
Also if ALL social housing is directly provided by the government/Council, then no one can EVER be evicted for anti-social behaviour because there's literally nowhere else for them to go.
Be careful what you wish for.
Where did I say I had exposed anything?
Once again, you misquote and twist other posters' words. You had better work harder on that advice.
Thanks for your life-coaching advice. I'll give it all the attention it deserves.
Why don't you remind us specifically of what 'waste and corruption' you've exposed here?
Very strange that the trust has financial issues. Surely fiscal malpractice or outright stealing by someone? Up to the 70s the state had a good record of house building. They may need to dissolve all these housing charities and trusts and start providing housing for those who can't buy privately.
Lacks detail. I'd read their latest annual report but it has been deleted.
Pay a visit to their website and you'll find all you need to know! Start with their Strategic Plan 2021 - 2025 and get back to us.
https://pmvtrust.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Peter-McVerry-Trust-Strategic-Plan-2021-2025.pdf
What was their business plan, they appear to have taken on many new staff in a very short number of recent years, 700+ now in total, we are told.
I'm having trouble understanding PMVT employing 700+ people, are these full time employees working for the charity or terminology use to describe people who access their services. Please tell me the latter.
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