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"I started a joke, that started the whole world ......" | Ireland v New Zealand.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭supermans ghost


    touche



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭supermans ghost




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Why not? What do they specifically need to improve on in your opinion? What do you reckon their other individual strengths are?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Must love hardship


    Ah Bollix.. dissapointing finish to a world cup that promised so much.


    Lost an enthralling 50/50 game by 1 score. Nothing to be embarrassed by but still utterly devastating.. always going to be a few what if's..

    Nz value for the win. Hope they go on and win it now.

    Ireland need a few new players

    Half back. Need to see what Doak can do as JGP is not the answer. Other options are gunne, murphy and foley as casey is not the answer.

    Crowley wasn't given a minute tonight which was poor by farrell. He needs to get his head no along with h byrne and Prendergast.

    Ireland also need to look at the young props. Porter is potentially brilliant but kilkoyne isn't putting pressure on. him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,675 ✭✭✭✭cson


    You'd prefer self flagellation and an inquest?

    What exactly is the value in either?

    You can **** off with the GAA shite too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,164 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    That's true, but this ranked number 1 rubbish really came back to bite us when we were so confident to beat NZ



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,620 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bottom line as I call it a night. Had we fashioned a try from that last phase it would have been called the best game ever in a World Cup.

    Small margins. As I lay me down to sleep we are still a great and formidable team with a bogey to beat.

    Has been a great journey, this bit is over but I still have my ticket and I still stand over reaching the destination



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,675 ✭✭✭✭cson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭supermans ghost




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,675 ✭✭✭✭cson


    The < 150 post clowns are out in force tonight.

    Who gives a **** what you think.



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  • Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rubbish post. People rationalise in all sorts of ways after a hard defeat. Say it's only sport etc.

    GAA and Soccer fans aren't some sort of superior breed that go into mourning for 6 mts. BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,966 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    You know one of those scenes in a war movie where someone is just walking around aimlessly staring into the distance totally not tuned in?

    That's me right now on the internet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,760 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Well I’m sure they can console themselves in the fact they’ve won one while our lot can’t get past a QF.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Most teams that have broken curses have had to assemble a team oustanding enough to overcome the mental baggage such a curse brings red Sox and Cubs come to might.

    Mayo arguably have never put out a team out and out better on paper than their finals opponent.. same with the Bills. Contrary to what people were saying we were not that out and out on paper before tonight that people suggested.

    That said with rankings the top 5 in the world presuming England get their act together looks locked in for while ..nasty draws a far less likely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,675 ✭✭✭✭cson


    That's true.

    What's also true is they are the most underachieving international team in history taking into account their player pool and resources. So I wouldn't exactly be geeing myself up as an English rugby fan either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭Iamabeliever




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭VayNiice


    As expected the pathetic creatures flood the forum to gain pleasure from the disappointment of genuine fans. I hope yous enjoy it because there's obviously not much else positive in your lives.

    I'm devastated after the loss and feel quite uncertain about where we'll be in 4 years time with the age profile of this team. Aside from the retiring players, how many of the lads in their late 20s will be able to match their current form when they hit that 32/33/34 age?

    Hopefully we can build to new heights around a core of guys like Sheehan, Doris, Keenan, Ryan etc. Some great talent coming through in munster too which will hopefully be breaking through.

    Now... Allez les Bleus!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    This is the thing we could be stuck in a "who's our best 10" doom loop for a while ..either if it's Crowley or Sam or who ever they won't have matured into a world class 10 in 4 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,760 ✭✭✭✭fullstop




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,020 ✭✭✭John arse




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,385 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    That was a tough defeat to take, really sickening. Makes the rest of the tournament and all the constant RWC related ads that will continue to play a hard watch now, what could have been.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    Need to get a serious coach like O’Gara in to actually make a difference where it matters ie the World Cup



  • Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    After exiting the 2007 WC we had won one Grand Slam in 1948.

    We have 3 more now 2009, 2018 and 2023.

    We won back to back U20 Grand Slams this year. And other U20 titles in the period.

    Our U20s were beaten in two World Cup finals in 2016 and 2023.

    Since 2007 Leinster have claimed 4 ERC titles to add to Munster's 2 and Ulster's 1.

    The great thing about sport is there are always new tournaments and 2027 will roll around. Players like Earls, POM, Sexton, Bundee have no more shots at a World Cup. But half, at least, of the panel do. They'll be joined by a batch of young men maturing by the day.

    In 2019 Doris, Sheehan, Hansen, Keenan etc were unknown at international level. 2027 will have similar new talent.

    To quote Ted Kennedy in 1980:

    'For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭noc1980


    Read the posts on here over the last week. You can count on one hand how many thought NZ could win and countless posts saying NZ are a spent force, we're battle hardened and they will be undercooked, we'll physically have too much for them, people making a combined team where only 1 or 2 all blacks make it in. It was nothing but unrestrained confidence and you could say arrogance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,082 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I don't think even NZ fans were confident about their own chances tonight, so it's a bit harsh to describe Irish fans as arrogant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Forgetting sport, our country allows anyone with an Irish granny to get a passport. I don't think it's tenuous either. My brother lives in London with his Irish wife. Their kids are thus very Irish in lots of ways. Their kids kids will be entitled to passports and entitled to play for Ireland in sport. That is only right. You can't compare that to lads landing in a country they've never been to and know nothing of in their 20s and playing for that country 3 years later. Only right that rule has been changed.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Kori Brave Sextant


    If only we could bottle that New Zealand killer mentality in Lucozade Sport bottles.

    They might be the worst New Zealand team in several decades but they have it upstairs - they fear absolutely nobody, ever.

    New Zealand couldn't give a bollocks about world rankings because in their head they're always #1.

    Meanwhile in Ireland, we write ballads about winning a glorified friendly in Chicago seven years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Timing belt


    Who was over-confident on beating the NZ? Maybe people that don’t follow rugby and came along for the ride.

    regardless of what world rankings say it’s was clear to anyone that NZ, SA, France and Ireland were playing the best rugby and any of these teams could beat each other on the night as there isn’t much between any of the teams.



  • Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Same as any sporting forum. Some talk up when they aren't all that confident.

    And if really believing something fair play for saying it out. It shouldn't be used as a stick to beat them.

    Also, about 80% of posters had fears of the All Blacks, and said it. If you were on the GAA forum when Kerry were playing Dublin a few Kerry felt they'd win. Did you reprimand them? Maybe you should.



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  • Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Legal and all having a granny isn't a strong enough connection for me either.



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